Hesitancy at Roundabouts

mune ni kamome · Jun 27, 2017

Increasingly these days I find myself approaching roundabouts to find nobody moving because everyone is trying to give way, waiting for the car to their right to go. Happens so often but I can't remember this happening in the past. (Unless I've got too old to remember)

Blue Valkyrie · Jun 27, 2017

mune ni kamome said:
Increasingly these days I find myself approaching roundabouts to find nobody moving because everyone is trying to give way, waiting for the car to their right to go. Happens so often but I can't remember this happening in the past. (Unless I've got too old to remember)

A knock on effect from the reduction in people signaling. With use of indictors now going out of fashion, then drivers have to be doubly sure before guessing another driver's intention, hence more caution at roundabouts.

JJ McClure · Jun 27, 2017

The only reason I'm more hesitant at roundabouts nowadays is that no-one bloody indicates anymore.

BN9 BHA · Jun 27, 2017

Do you mean mini roundabouts? As this does seem to happen if a mini roundabout has 4 exits.

Steve in Japan · Jun 27, 2017

Unexpectedly not entering a roundabout (when it is empty) seems to be a common cause of accidents. Of course it is the responsibility of the driver who does the rear-ending, but this dithering is bloody infuriating.

Butch Willykins · Jun 27, 2017

I guarantee the drivers that are hesitant at roundabouts are the same people who struggle with self service checkouts in supermarkets and/or are painfully slow going through airport security. Nimrods.

Blue Valkyrie · Jun 27, 2017

Butch Willykins said:
I guarantee the drivers that are hesitant at roundabouts are the same people who struggle with self service checkouts in supermarkets and/or are painfully slow going through airport security. Nimrods.

Who doesn't struggle with self service checkouts...?

"Please put your item in the bagging area..."

"It is in f****** bagging area you utter, utter **** !!!!'....

[emoji38]ol:

BN9 BHA · Jun 27, 2017

Blue Valkyrie said:
A knock on effect from the reduction in people signaling. With use of indictors now going out of fashion, then drivers have to be doubly sure before guessing another driver's intention, hence more caution at roundabouts.

Spot on.
There is a roundabout on the A259 in Newhaven, if I'm driving from Newhaven to Seaford I always try to second guess what the driver coming the other way is going to do.
Cars coming from Seaford ( A259) indicate right on the roundabout but go straight over towards Newhaven, some drivers don't indicate but turn right at the roundabout towards Denton.

A mex eyecan · Jun 27, 2017

had an interesting one last evening. Mini roundabout with three roads, all minor B ones. Three of us literally approached at same time and same distance, all indicating a right turn, all stoped watching who felt they had right of way. Never had one like that before

Notters · Jun 27, 2017

Blue Valkyrie said:
A knock on effect from the reduction in people signaling. With use of indictors now going out of fashion, then drivers have to be doubly sure before guessing another driver's intention, hence more caution at roundabouts.

Yes, this. Well not just not signalling, but signalling wrong. I would say >50% of people signal wrong, at roundabouts, particularly signalling right to go round a roundabout but then not cancelling it when they get to their exit.

bn9 bha said:
Spot on.
There is a roundabout on the A259 in Newhaven, if I'm driving from Newhaven to Seaford I always try to second guess what the driver coming the other way is going to do.
Cars coming from Seaford ( A259) indicate right on the roundabout but go straight over towards Newhaven, some drivers don't indicate but turn right at the roundabout towards Denton.

Both of the roundabouts either side of Sainsburys seem to be particularly bad for some reason. I do think a lot of these problems could be removed if the lanes were very clearly marked (or if people learned to use their indicators.

Hillian1 · Jun 27, 2017

I hesitated at this one last year.

WATFORD zero · Jun 27, 2017

A mex eyecan said:
had an interesting one last evening. Mini roundabout with three roads, all minor B ones. Three of us literally approached at same time and same distance, all indicating a right turn, all stoped watching who felt they had right of way. Never had one like that before

Mex eyecan standoff - quite common, edge forwards slowly and if the car to your right moves, then stop. Otherwise continue to edge across :thumbsup:

Stat Brother · Jun 27, 2017

There is one positive to come from roundabout faffing:-

I can nip through on my bike while all the death carriages are having a Mexican standoff.

Sure that stops the one driver who was about to move, making the whole process start again, but what do I care I'm a long way up the road.

Beep-beep. :dunce:

I'll save you all the trouble - thumbs down. :lol:

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BN9 BHA · Jun 27, 2017

Notters said:
Yes, this. Well not just not signalling, but signalling wrong. I would say >50% of people signal wrong, at roundabouts, particularly signalling right to go round a roundabout but then not cancelling it when they get to their exit.

Both of the roundabouts either side of Sainsburys seem to be particularly bad for some reason. I do think a lot of these problems could be removed if the lanes were very clearly marked (or if people learned to use their indicators.

The roundabout near McDonalds has got to be one of the worst ones I have seen, rules of the road are totally ignored by far too many drivers.

Thunder Bolt · Jun 27, 2017

bn9 bha said:
Spot on.
There is a roundabout on the A259 in Newhaven, if I'm driving from Newhaven to Seaford I always try to second guess what the driver coming the other way is going to do.
Cars coming from Seaford ( A259) indicate right on the roundabout but go straight over towards Newhaven, some drivers don't indicate but turn right at the roundabout towards Denton.

This.

Notters said:
Yes, this. Well not just not signalling, but signalling wrong. I would say >50% of people signal wrong, at roundabouts, particularly signalling right to go round a roundabout but then not cancelling it when they get to their exit.

Both of the roundabouts either side of Sainsburys seem to be particularly bad for some reason. I do think a lot of these problems could be removed if the lanes were very clearly marked (or if people learned to use their indicators.

And this.

Goldstone1976 · Jun 27, 2017

Blue Valkyrie said:
Who doesn't struggle with self service checkouts...?

"Please put your item in the bagging area..."

"It is in f****** bagging area you utter, utter **** !!!!'....

[emoji38]ol:

I've noticed a massive difference in the frequency of this happening, depending on which supermarket I shop in. In Morrisons, it happens every other item, in Sainsbury's about once every 6 items; in Waitrose, never. It's not happened, not once. I've even put an already loaded bag (loaded from shopping in other fine establishments, I hasten to add) onto the bagging area, and the Waitrose system has gone "ok - now start scanning our stuff please".

The message I receive, loud and clear, is that Waitrose trust you not to steal from them; the other shops, umm, don't. Nice.

On topic: yes, hesitancy has definitely increased at roundabouts. Prior to reading this thread, I'd put it down to the snowflake generation, but perhaps it is the reduction in signalling as others have said.

GooGull · Jun 27, 2017

I think it's because too many people can't think far enough ahead. It's not even having to anticipate what the other drivers are doing, if the roundabouts clear just go ffs

Biscuit · Jun 27, 2017

People who don't indicate are ****ing dickheads.

Publius Ovidius · Jun 27, 2017

I had a couple off "lessons" from a met police driver who basically advised amongst other things, how to approach and drive through a roundabout where clear. Basically if it was clear or there was a sufficient gap, he suggested accelerating through trying to take a straightest line, which I suppose is logical really.

I tend to use that method when arriving at the roundabout from the dyke end and dyke road/ a27 as you get loads of dithering and people coming at you from the slip road off the a27 also. If there is sufficient gap, I tend to go. I sat there once for 10 minutes whilst this bloke with three dogs in the car waited for a gap the size of a bloody super tanker.

BN9 BHA · Jun 27, 2017

GooGull said:
I think it's because too many people can't think far enough ahead. It's not even having to anticipate what the other drivers are doing, if the roundabouts clear just go ffs

This makes no sense, if there are no other cars we won't have to guess what another driver is going to do?
Obviously just go if the roundabout is clear.

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