Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
True, but where do you sleep tonight?
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Massive fire in London - Grenfell Tower in Shepherds Bush
- Thread starter Dick Head
- Start date
True, but where do you sleep tonight?
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
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On the flip side (ITV), Piers Morgan was going full tabloid, wildly speculating and thrashing around for someone to blame. Think I prefer the BBC approach.
Awful tragedy.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Yes, you can guarantee some of the residents won't have had insurance. Tragic for everyone.
Hillian1
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Is it true that Morgan was suggesting that the SAS should have been mobilised to Rappel down the tower and rescue residents or has a guy in my office just made that up?
Jolly Red Giant
Well-known member
- Jul 11, 2015
- 2,615
This is a catastrophic disaster - and one the residents have been warning about for years.
This should not have happened and was avoidable.
https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com
Here is a quote from an article written by the Action Group in Nov 2016 -
This should not have happened and was avoidable.
https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com
Here is a quote from an article written by the Action Group in Nov 2016 -
I also doubt that the dodgy Management company will be adequately insured.
hart's shirt
Well-known member
Terrible scenes.
Thoughts and prayers for all those affected, residents, family members, firefighters.
So sad.
Thoughts and prayers for all those affected, residents, family members, firefighters.
So sad.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
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No idea but probably true I could only watch for a couple of minutes had to turn over in disgust.
Badger Boy
Mr Badger
- Jan 28, 2016
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It's not clear to me why they would report that the building will not collapse.
Of course it won't collapse, there's only been one occasion in history when a building has fallen of its own accord due to fire and that day 3 buildings fell. It didn't happen before, and to the best of my knowledge, it hasn't happened since despite a number of savage fires such as this one.
RIP to all those who have died, and to all those whose lives have been changed in a severe and significant way. Horrible news to wake up to this morning.
Of course it won't collapse, there's only been one occasion in history when a building has fallen of its own accord due to fire and that day 3 buildings fell. It didn't happen before, and to the best of my knowledge, it hasn't happened since despite a number of savage fires such as this one.
RIP to all those who have died, and to all those whose lives have been changed in a severe and significant way. Horrible news to wake up to this morning.
brightn'ove
cringe
Wow, what a horrendous time to open up that particular can of worms.
Moving on...
I could see the column of smoke from my flat - truly horrendous scenes. I personally could never live in a huge block of flats for exactly this reason, you are not in control of the people that live above or below you and the more people you put in one building the more risk there is of fire.
RIP those that have died - I fear the number will be large
Hillian1
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You missed the bit about those particular buildings having been hit by fully laden aeroplanes.
Other than that, good point.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
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There is some coordination regarding what local companies can do to help.
We're just waiting to hear.
We're just waiting to hear.
symyjym
Banned
Really quite shocked that a fire like this could happen in this day and age in this country. Just refurbished but with no sprinkler system, or at the very least fire alarms included in the fit.
Paul Reids Sock
Well-known member
Its a disgrace that such things aren't mandatory upgrades to all buildings.
What sort of world do we live in when you have to upgrade floodlights in a football stadium so the TV looks better but we don't insist on all these flats having fire alarms and sprinklers
Do residential buildings have fire alarm systems and sprinkler systems in now? As far as I'm aware they don't. Residents could install a fire alarm in there own properties and that's it. If a BMS system was installed it would need to be managed by someone, maintained etc.
Badger Boy
Mr Badger
- Jan 28, 2016
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Only two out of three were, United 23 never took off which was potentially the intended cover story for building 7.
This isn't the time or the place, but science doesn't support any emotional explanation for the collapses. Science says that the fire in this tower couldn't have been hot enough to cause even a partial collapse, and there hasn't and won't be. As it should be, it will still be standing as has every other building gutted by fire. Only controlled demolition can explain the collapse of buildings.
Bold Seagull
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Terrible tragedy and my intent is not to cause an argument, but progressive collapse has occurred in many buildings and had a whole revision of building regulations to address the structural implications. Ronan Point wasn't a full collapse of the building, but a gas explosion in one flat caused 22 stories on one corner to completely collapse. More recently 29 storey Windsor Tower in Madrid partially collapsed with the top 11 floors collapsing in 2005 after fire. In January this year the 17 storey Plasco building in Tehran completely collapsed after fire. It isn't unheard of and given the severity of the fire, I think it is right to report that engineers have reported it safe.