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GT49er said:

Mostly agree with that, but not on a couple of points.

1). "Integration hasn't happened as many "liberals" would hope".
The trouble is, too many liberals decided that expecting people to integrate wasn't liberal enough, and that multi-culturalism was a much better option. It wasn't, and it isn't. It didn't work, hasn't worked, and never will work. These troubles will go on until this particular group does what other incomers to this country have done over the years; integrating, while at the same time adding some splendid bits of their culture to to the pot.

2). "One wronged person in custody is worth 10 innocent aloud to live."
They can be as noisy as they f*kc*n like, but they must be allowed to live!

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GT49er said:

The trouble is, too many liberals decided that expecting people to integrate wasn't liberal enough, and that multi-culturalism was a much better option. It wasn't, and it isn't. It didn't work, hasn't worked, and never will work. These troubles will go on until this particular group does what other incomers to this country have done over the years; integrating, while at the same time adding some splendid bits of their culture to to the pot.

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Questions said:

The Manchester bomber was reported according to most reports I've read from within his own community.

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Raleigh Chopper said:

Yes he was, 2 or 3 times, and ignored.

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nicko31 said:

While trivialise what happened yesterday?

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nicko31 said:

Working with communities is by far the best way to stop all this. Some idiots on here have just taken their ideas taken from the likes of the BNP and EFL to deal with the issue.

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e77 said:

I just googled that quote and it led me back to your post on here.

What is the source?

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Raleigh Chopper said:

Those on the watch list must be there for a reason but we cannot keep an eye on them 24/7.
If enough is enough (or is it more empty words from May) then I have no problem in rounding them up and putting them somewhere where they can be kept an eye on 24/7, at least for the time being.
Not something I really like to see, but this cannot continue and those on the watch list are probably the ones to strike.
And, somehow we have to stop everyone returning by whatever route back into this country from Syria, Iraq and Afganistan (usually via Turkey) and put them in the same place as the others.
With these people rounded up it will allow a lot more resources to concentrate on other extremists that are not yet on the watch list.
Longer term the Government has got to engage with Muslims to help us get to these people before they act.

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sjamesb3466 said:

I think you mean the EDL but I do agree with your sentiments

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nicko31 said:

While trivialise what happened yesterday?

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Green Cross Code Man said:

I agree with this. As a person with christian beliefs, whilst I think everyone should express ideas thoughtfully, I would not hesitate to defend someone's right to dispute and even denigrate my religion should they so wish. Christianity went through a reformation which Islam never has. I think that makes a difference apart from the peaceful nature of Jesus Christ as opposed to Mohammed. There has been a kind of Orwellian situation the past twenty years or so in which, if I may misquote, 'All religions are equal, but some religions are more equal than others.' It is precisely because we have pussy-footed around the problem of criticism of Islam/The Prophet, that we have many of these home grown nutters who have been allowed to nurture their intolerance for our way of life whilst enjoying the benefits befitting of some one who lives in the West. I am of the opinion that all belief which is likely to allow for indiscriminate treatment of our laws and any separate system of law, such as Sharia, should be outlawed. Any such people who desire to live under such laws/beliefs, should be encouraged to emigrate to a country where their beliefs will not cause discord and if that is not possible, they should be interred. Imagine if in the second world war, we had allowed Nazi sympathisers to try to build another society alongside our own culture, that would have been unthinkable.

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Two Professors said:

I can honestly say that is the most useless,moronic,pointless post I have ever seen on here.

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Leighgull said:

I'm just guessing but I imagine British humour is something that Islamists hate. In that case I'm all for it. We've a proud tradition of laughing at existential threats to our way of life from Napoleon to Hitler. Should we all sit at home grizzling then?

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Cheshire Cat said:

You don't come here often then?

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Leighgull said:

‘some might argue that your foreign policies are what drives our hatred. But this particular reason for hating you is secondary. Even if you were to stop bombing us we would continue to hate you we hate your secularism, your lack of modesty and your democracy. Our primary reason for hating you will not cease to exist until you embrace Islam.’ .

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happypig said:

I don't think it's all our foreign policy (some of it maybe but not all). I think it's about empowerment. Some Muslims feel that Islam is the most important thing in the world; to them Islam is everything. And before the internet and satellite TV, they could live in an insular community that was, as far as they were aware, the same as the rest of the world.
Then, a few years ago, along came technology that allowed them to get connected and they looked at the world and they saw that it was different to how they thought; The power and importance in the world wasn't Islam and Allah and Mohammed, it was MTV and Coca Cola.
That's where the hate started to fester. They saw that we, in the First world were better off than them, happier, healthier and had more control over our own lives; if we wanted to sing and dance or have casual relationships we could because we didn't pay much attention to medieval books telling us it was wrong.
They started to think "how can we make these Kaffir realise that Islam is more important that their ways ?" because to them it is everything. They started asking "how can we make Islam more prominent than Western culture ?".
In the twisted minds of Fundamentalists, terrorist acts are about empowering Islam not imposing it.

Course that's just a theory, might be bollocks

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happypig said:

I don't think it's all our foreign policy (some of it maybe but not all). I think it's about empowerment. Some Muslims feel that Islam is the most important thing in the world; to them Islam is everything. And before the internet and satellite TV, they could live in an insular community that was, as far as they were aware, the same as the rest of the world.
Then, a few years ago, along came technology that allowed them to get connected and they looked at the world and they saw that it was different to how they thought; The power and importance in the world wasn't Islam and Allah and Mohammed, it was MTV and Coca Cola.
That's where the hate started to fester. They saw that we, in the First world were better off than them, happier, healthier and had more control over our own lives; if we wanted to sing and dance or have casual relationships we could because we didn't pay much attention to medieval books telling us it was wrong.
They started to think "how can we make these Kaffir realise that Islam is more important that their ways ?" because to them it is everything. They started asking "how can we make Islam more prominent than Western culture ?".
In the twisted minds of Fundamentalists, terrorist acts are about empowering Islam not imposing it.

Course that's just a theory, might be bollocks

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Pretty pink fairy said:

Time to start rounding up and interning the usual suspects I say
regards
DR

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