Thunder Bolt
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As much as I dislike Katie Hopkins, I think we should leave her kids out of this.
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As much as I dislike Katie Hopkins, I think we should leave her kids out of this.
Fred Oliver - Legend
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I'v honestly never heard that phrase used in conjunction with Nazis and Jews.
- Jun 27, 2012
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Its a rather obscure reference, i think, to this moment after the Westminster attack where Pip Schofield walked over Westminster Bridge "in tribute and defiance". ie: for KT - a perfect example of something she often rails against - celebrity "virtue signalling".
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...in-defiance-after-terror-attack-a3498361.html
Mo Gosfield
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The ' Final Solution ' of the Nazi's principally targetted European Jewry, not all Jews. They knew that Jews ( of which there were many ) in the USA were untouchable. It was not a final solution as such, as that would have involved the eradication of the entire world population of Jews. Their aim was to create a superstate, a giant land mass from the shores of France to the Eastern edge of Russia and eradicate all Jewry in that continent.
Their ' Final Solution ' also included gypsies, homosexuals, the handicapped and the disabled, those with learning difficulties and many that simply didn't fit the ideal ' Aryan ' profile. They also persecuted those that didn't agree with their ideas and that included some of the great intellects of that time but again, only within their targetted empire.
Stalin killed three times as many of his own people as those persecuted by the Nazi's but we don't hear people referring to a ' Stalin like purge ' or indeed to dictators and rulers who have killed many millions in acts of genocide. It is the use of this particular phrase that immediately makes people jump to the conclusion that it is a direct reference to Nazi atrocities.
The ' Final Solution ' of the Nazi's could never be finite. It was unattainable. It was a dream, an ideology. It was nimbyism. Hitler blamed the Jews for issues within his own continent. He wasn't bothered about them elsewhere.
Muslim extremism demands a final global solution and they are fanatically committed to achieving it. That is the main difference between their vision and that of the Nazi's. The Nazi's never had a final solution but their extravagant use of the phrase has seeped into general parlance.
If Katie Hopkins had said we need to purge the world of Isis and use whatever means in our power to do so, she would have received widespread support. She unwisely chose to use wording that sits uncomfortably with too many people.
As a one off possibly. But she has a history of not intending to use loaded terms. For the record I'm not offended....I just find her pathetic attempts at controversy tedious.
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I don't either.
And I find people who "haven't a clue what she did wrong" tedious as well. Even if you disagree they were offensive you surely must have an inkling as to why they might be deemed offensive by some?
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Nope, I honestly didn't get this one I'm afraid.
daveybgtt
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Taking offense at things is for sad brains.
Right, thanks. I don't follow celebs, so missed that, but it seems odd for that to be foremost in her mind at that moment.
jakarta
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Who knows what Nazi Germany would have done if it had defeated Russia and Britain?
Certainly it would have liquidated all the above mentioned groups within its grasp and as the most powerful country in the world it may well have looked at fighting the USA.
Especially as they had an atomic weapons program and ballistic rockets by 1944-45.
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We are not allowed to Buzzer.
You'll be unoffended, then, if I call you a 'see you next Tuesday'?
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Yes I understand why quoting final solution can be taken offensively.
But not as much as seeing 22 young people intentionally blown up.
In short I think if people are so easily offended I worry about their ability to get through life.
The biggest problem we face as a country is not Katie Hopkins, it's the scum that hunk its clever to blow our children up. The exact same scum she is being grave enough to have a go at, when most of the media are too scared.
For that I applaud her even though if her wording was very poorly thought through.
She clearly did. She's well aware of offensive terms and the meaning of phrases like that, she makes her living writing about these things. No one would innocently write 'we need a final solution' in the context she wrote it.
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Diddums. Why don't you tell the American press,if you know who they are, or do you just want to hate?
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