- Jul 10, 2003
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Massive Invasion at Waterhall
- Thread starter osgood
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There was a thing on the radio the other week about how calling people pikeys is racist and offensive. There was some lad saying that because of his background, people will always think he's a scumbag and a thief whatever he does with his life.
My thoughts were that if all pikeys weren't scumbags and thieves then they wouldn't get tarred with the "scumbags and thieves" brush.
The pikey *****.
My thoughts were that if all pikeys weren't scumbags and thieves then they wouldn't get tarred with the "scumbags and thieves" brush.
The pikey *****.
BBassic
I changed this.
- Jul 28, 2011
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Just read about that in the Argus. Police issuing an enforcement order to move them on. Why? They broke in. Illegally. Arrest the *******s and impound their vehicles.
Successive weak governments for the last 25 years are to blame. Travellers take advantage of anything and everything and so it is with the weak laws and reluctance to confront. Add to that the certainty that any member of the public trying to protect their community would doubtless feel the full force of th law if they so much as refer to them as "pikeys".
Yet again, the working person, the taxpayer, the law abiding family pay the price. Makes me ****ing sick.
Yet again, the working person, the taxpayer, the law abiding family pay the price. Makes me ****ing sick.
Gilliver's Travels
Peripatetic
You forgot the Guinness and the pork pies.What about the rumour that they all keep cartoon pictures of Mohammed in their caravans, and regularly have get togethers where they sit around pi88ing themselves laughing at them?
Just wondering, like..................
Barry Izbak
U.T.A.
There is nothing* that winds me up more than these dirty scum freeloaders imposing their disgusting crap on the rest of us.
Why on earth do the authorities let them get away with it year in year out?
* except the obvious in this terribly sad week
Why on earth do the authorities let them get away with it year in year out?
* except the obvious in this terribly sad week
The Large One
Who's Next?
How dare anybody say a bad word about these people...they're a 'Minority'...and any opinion other than they are just victims of the nasty society and or just expressing their 'culture' of doing what ever the hell they like with no recourse is nothing but pure racism!
I'm sure Caroline Clueless and all the other 'right on' hand wringing liberals who blight our city, who love nothing but to jump to the defence of the oppressed minority's or 'victims' of any possible right on cause, would be happy to put their hands in their pockets to support them financially and open up her garden and drive way to such oppressed people
Are you ill?
This.
How hard can it be to protect the sites the travellers habitually target? Solid barriers e.g. rocks, those metal barriers etc.
brightn'ove
cringe
How dare anybody say a bad word about these people
I'm sure Caroline Clueless and all the other 'right on' hand wringing liberals who blight our city, who love nothing but to jump to the defence of the oppressed minority's or 'victims' of any possible right on cause, would be happy to put their hands in their pockets to support them financially and open up her garden and drive way to such oppressed people
The ramblings of a mad man.
brightn'ove
cringe
Also the ramblings of a mad man.
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ER, Football Tournament is scheduled for this weekend, should they cancel it then ?
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
The Kevin Ogle Charity Tournament this weekend. One of the really good ones with great attendance and typically a great day with kids and adults competing.
sams dad
I hate Palarse
If there is an event scheduled for land that the travellers are occupying, the Police have the power to move them on without a court order
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
There are some very "odd" attitudes from much of the travelling community. They seem to feel the rest of us (ie non-travellers) are "out to get them" and they show hostility because of this.
We had a bloke in court once, something to do with collecting scrap metal without a license or somesuch. He turned up unrepresented and, when asked if he had familiarised himself with the paperwork proudly boasted "No, cannot read and write"; his body language and attitude suggested to me that he wore his illiteracy as some sort of badge of honour.
The legal advice given was "fine him but make sure he pays before he leaves" (it's usual to give someone time to pay).
The problem with prosecuting them for criminal damage (cutting the padlock off) is that they all deny they did it, don't know who did and "it was already open when I arrived".
We had a bloke in court once, something to do with collecting scrap metal without a license or somesuch. He turned up unrepresented and, when asked if he had familiarised himself with the paperwork proudly boasted "No, cannot read and write"; his body language and attitude suggested to me that he wore his illiteracy as some sort of badge of honour.
The legal advice given was "fine him but make sure he pays before he leaves" (it's usual to give someone time to pay).
The problem with prosecuting them for criminal damage (cutting the padlock off) is that they all deny they did it, don't know who did and "it was already open when I arrived".
Pevenseagull
Anti-greed coalition
- Jul 20, 2003
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With apologies to 'Game Of Thones'......, 'Summer is coming'.
http://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/content/housing/travellers
http://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/content/housing/travellers
They may have not made their statements very eloquently but they certainly aren't mad. The local Green Party, when in power, were pretty loud in their support of travellers and their condemnation of anyone that dared be critical of them and their actions. At one council meeting where it was suggested that the council should become much tougher and instigate a zero tolerance approach to travellers one Green Councillor, I'm pretty sure it was Lizzie Deane, apoplectic in her defence of the travellers and how they were continuously picked on etc etc.
When Mike Weatherley, the then MP for Hove, arranged a meeting with local residents to discuss what they wanted done about the problem he was rounded upon by both Caroline Lucas ( who attended the meeting and was resoundingly drowned out with boos after she spoke in defence of travellers ) and Ben Duncan. Duncan even accused Weatherley of inciting racial hatred ( but given how utterly mad and vile Duncan is Weatherley probably took it as a compliment ! ).
The Greens adopted a soft touch on travellers - Jason Kitcat spoke a number of times in favour of only removing them from key sites and leaving them be elsewhere.
While the only real solution is to make trespass a criminal act, the council and the police should be making life as unpleasant as possible when these people just turn up and park. Not carrying out soft touch policies like the Greens suggest. The building of an additional travellers site is also not acceptable - firstly because they won't use it ( Horsdean has had space in the past when they've invaded Waterhall ) and secondly why should the taxpayer provide them somewhere to stop ? Strange that the council have come down heavily on homeless people setting up tents but don't have the guts to face down these vile people ( Dawn Barnett excepted ).
EDIT - *** Awaits the usual sycophantic defence of the Greens from the usual suspect ***
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This is not quite true. The Tents in Brighton and Hove are actually covered by local bye-laws which makes camping in certain green spaces an offence and the council can prosecute. However they do not like doing this. With regard to the extra sites at Horsdean this then allows a section 62 notice to be served directing the travellers to go to the transit site, if they refuse to go they cannot return to the city for 3 months as it is then a criminal offence. Without the transit site you could only issue a section 61 notice which meant they could simply move to the next green space in the city.
giveusfalmerplease
Well-known member
i'm usually a tolerant person but these people who live outside the law really get my goat...I remember about 10 years ago a bunch of them convinced my 88 year old gran to let them clear her garden for "only £30" which she agreed to and then about 20 of them turned up and demanded £600 from her after they had been there less than half hour as it was £30 per person. We only found out many months later after they had moved on. We also suspect all they did was dump the garden waste in whatever poor other soles back garden/land they were living on at the time.
