Breaking news: Reports of explosion in Manchester

Raleigh Chopper said:

Apparently there are many people gloating and celebrating this attack on Twitter.
Surely it is time to either close this outlet for pond life and people with nothing else better to do down or severely moderate it.
It has some use I suppose but the bad massively outweighs the good.
I see there were people filming other people panicking to get away on their phones all ready to download.
I find the whole Facebook / Twitter thing bizzare.
After a couple of months you won't miss it.

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Bozza said:

The unfortunate fact is there is precious little we can do about these kind of attacks, is there?

Our security services are seemingly able to work small miracles in regularly snuffing out attacks from groups and cells that their intelligence unearths, but lone wolf attacks are all but impossible to know about until it's too late.

We can beef up security on entrance to mass attendance venues, such as we have seen at the Amex, but that merely moves the point where an attack may occur further out.

That this attack happened at the end of the concert just outside the main arena may indicate that this attack was carried out by someone approaching the venue having not gone to the concert itself.

If we can stop bad actors getting into football stadiums, we can do little to stop them targeting crowds as they leave stadiums in city centres or on public transport.

So terribly sad

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Bozza said:

The unfortunate fact is there is precious little we can do about these kind of attacks, is there?

Our security services are seemingly able to work small miracles in regularly snuffing out attacks from groups and cells that their intelligence unearths, but lone wolf attacks are all but impossible to know about until it's too late.

We can beef up security on entrance to mass attendance venues, such as we have seen at the Amex, but that merely moves the point where an attack may occur further out.

That this attack happened at the end of the concert just outside the main arena may indicate that this attack was carried out by someone approaching the venue having not gone to the concert itself.

If we can stop bad actors getting into football stadiums, we can do little to stop them targeting crowds as they leave stadiums in city centres or on public transport.

So terribly sad

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Frutos said:

Utterly, utterly sickening - suicide bombing is appalling enough, but to target a concert full of children?! Can't even begin to understand the thought process behind that, nor do I want to.

RIP to those killed.

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Baker lite said:

Not sure how,as home sec she binned 30k police officers and now the wretched old hag wants to bring back fox hunting to appease the hoorays.
Tally ho.

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Goldstone1976 said:

Not the thread for this type of post, so you've been banned from it.

On topic: RIP to the fatalities, and condolences to the wounded and the families of all those affected. Terrible, shocking atrocity.

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Bozza said:

The unfortunate fact is there is precious little we can do about these kind of attacks, is there?

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Mo Gosfield said:

Ah yes.........remember all those years ago when radical Muslim clerics were standing on the streets of this proud and tolerant country and spouting their bile and poison at the Western World. At the time, those who supposedly knew better, rallied to their defence, upholding their right to free speech and civil liberty. Police were instructed to stand aside and allow them to preach whatever they liked, whilst arresting those that protested that these views struck at the very heart and fabric of our society.
They brainwashed and converted the immature and the vulnerable to their warped, distorted and sordid ideology, in private and in public, not just in tens, not just in hundreds but in thousands. Steadily it grew but to many it posed no danger. It was such a small minority that it didn't represent a threat. The so called ' politically correct ' continued to leap to their defence. The majority of the ever growing Muslim community remained silent.
The intellectual and learned community, those who studied and understood the intolerance of the Islamic belief, and expressed their concern, were roundly condemned, again and again and again. And now, whenever these terrorist attacks occur ( which they will, with ever increasing frequency ) those that allowed these poisonous seeds to be sown and grow, are the first to go public with their sorrow and condolence.
These incidents sicken, sadden and anger in equal measure. It is always the innocent that suffer. Trying to deal with an ideology that sees no other and regards itself as the last, the final word of God, is an impossibility. It is a one way path to bloodshed. We have years and years of this ahead of us and we must fight it with every sinew we can muster. It threatens our future stability.
We had a chance to drive this underground. That chance was callously chucked aside by those who thought they knew better. Those who infiltrated our education system, our local government and central government system and our media world, brainwashed many with their politically correct ideas.
They have a lot to answer for but will bear no sense of responsiblilty. We are trying to deal with something that is now out of control and can only hope that more are prevented carrying out these acts than actually succeed.
My thoughts, as always, are with those who have suffered.

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Thunder Bolt said:

One mother interviewed on tv, said that Ariane came on for one more encore, and ran over time. If she hadn't, there would have been a lot more people in the entrance, leaving the venue, and the carnage could have been far worse (as bad as it is).

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Raleigh Chopper said:

Apparently there are many people gloating and celebrating this attack on Twitter.
Surely it is time to either close this outlet for pond life and people with nothing else better to do down or severely moderate it.
It has some use I suppose but the bad massively outweighs the good.
I see there were people filming other people panicking to get away on their phones all ready to download.
I find the whole Facebook / Twitter thing bizzare.
After a couple of months you won't miss it.

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portlock seagull said:

Eh?! Bit OTT. Reduction in our police forces has everything to do with? Aren't you being a bit guilty of over reaction? We don't know it's an Islamic attacked yet plenty on here are saying it is. Are you going to ban them too?!

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portlock seagull said:

Eh?! Bit OTT. Reduction in our police forces has everything to do with? Aren't you being a bit guilty of over reaction? We don't know it's an Islamic attacked yet plenty on here are saying it is. Are you going to ban them too?!

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Thunder Bolt said:

One mother interviewed on tv, said that Ariane came on for one more encore, and ran over time. If she hadn't, there would have been a lot more people in the entrance, leaving the venue, and the carnage could have been far worse (as bad as it is).

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Yoda said:

The sooner Social Media sites start deleting accounts that do this and blocking the ip addresses to stop them re-registering, the better.

Also web hosting sites and providers taking down their sites to stop influential people being converted to their radicalisation ideals, forcing them to the darknet where very few people will see it the better. These companies really need to start taking more responsibility the spread of this.

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Psychobilly freakout said:

Terrible unforgivable attack by a coward who wondered in to the exit area once the doors were opened to let people out.
My thoughts are with anyone affected, including my brother who works for Manchester police and is currently in the command centre and he just told me he has to help identify the bodies shortly.

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Bozza said:

Not sure I get that. This is being reported as a suspect suicide bomb. I've always assumed that those would be triggered by someone pressing a button (or whatever), rather than setting a timer. I'll admit to not being an expert on these things though.

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