nicko31
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Any NSC Trump fans still on board? Anyone think he's handled this current situation well?
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- Thread starter ShandyH
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I have vowed to never bother reading fully or answering the fool. Should have done the same with TB yonks ago.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 27,892
Yay! Bingo!
Despite what has been said on here, I'm English but I DO have a pretty good grasp of what's going on over there.
(Although I do have to own the fact my touchstones are predominately the 'Liberal Elite').
From day 1 I've said Pence is the man to be scared of, to the point that had a fair few other posters scurrying off to do some half arsed internet research, before returning and saying, 'yes I now retract my Pence seems ok' statements.
The man isn't doing what he wants, not what he believes in, he's not working for the money, his legacy, or his golf resorts, he's here to do what God telling him to do.
For that reason I hope Trump remains health for the length of his Presidency.
Klaas
I've changed this
- Nov 1, 2017
- 2,562
Hey, come on now, TB has played basketball in America you know! He's very well informed. I think a black boy might have made fun of his mullet, and the result is this.
Taking a step back, for a second.
When Donny took office, it struck me that it might not be such a bad thing to have a non Political loose cannon in The White House.
History will tell us since WWII, we've been pretty centrist.
Although they didn't feel it at the time, but the peaks weren't too high and the troughs weren't too low, which I think in turn led to some serious stagnation on the geopolitical front.
Having someone prepared to poke the (panda) bear, call out North Korea and Iran with the actual threat of 'you have no idea what I going to do next', could have worked.
It could have worked for the oppressed masses.
Wealth distribution.
The environment.
etc etc etc
It's just such a shame it all fell into this fookin idiots lap, or to be more precise Putin's lap.
When Donny took office, it struck me that it might not be such a bad thing to have a non Political loose cannon in The White House.
History will tell us since WWII, we've been pretty centrist.
Although they didn't feel it at the time, but the peaks weren't too high and the troughs weren't too low, which I think in turn led to some serious stagnation on the geopolitical front.
Having someone prepared to poke the (panda) bear, call out North Korea and Iran with the actual threat of 'you have no idea what I going to do next', could have worked.
It could have worked for the oppressed masses.
Wealth distribution.
The environment.
etc etc etc
It's just such a shame it all fell into this fookin idiots lap, or to be more precise Putin's lap.
So.CalGull
Well-known member
How are those election promises working out...?
Hilary is in Jail.
The wall has been built and paid for by Mexico.
Obamacare has been taken down and replaced.
All illegal immigrants removed.
You know what, you are 100% bang on.
Continue.
BadFish
Huge Member
- Oct 19, 2003
- 17,102
I said for many years "Show me the politician least like a politician and I will vote for them".
My feel was, as you suggest here, politics was stagnant and politicians of all sides were complacent and needed a massive kick up the arse.
You are right it is a huge pity.
I haven't said it since Trump.
Tyrone Biggums
Well-known member
That's easily answered.
Trump isn't right wing. He has no true political philosophies. That's the biggest joke, he ended up in politics. Why? Because Clinton was so corrupt and untrustworthy a caricature like Trump seemed more palatable.
To equate plutocracy to the right when the left is flushed with it's own billionaires is disingenuous.
So you agree with me then that it's all one big orchestrated scam then to put more money into the pockets of the money people that benefit the Democrats and Republican parties equally.
Why do you think so many people still don't trust the US Government and hold the constitution so high in regards to how they think?
The name is a Dave Chappelle character. Not that up on US comedy I guess.
My version of reality is from people who see the collusion between both parties to prop up the billionaires clubs. Is your version of reality different?
My commitment is to smaller Governments and less Government intervention anywhere. Let's just say I can relate a lot to someone like Jesse Ventura, a man of good principles who can see and call out the corrupt bullshit going on.
Who would you rather listen to for truth, Ventura or CNN/Fox?
Anyone who spouts garbage like the Democrats are the good guys is the true garbage propaganda pushers. They are all in bed together and yet we have idiots trying to pretend otherwise.
Tyrone Biggums
Well-known member
Nope, he should have shut their borders immediately to international traffic.
As every nation should have.
If this virus has shown anything it's how pathetic the World Health Organisation is.
Utter disgrace of an organisation that is corrupt to the core.
Tyrone Biggums
Well-known member
So you can't have voted for anyone in years in Australian politics then?
Nobody in Labor, Greens or Liberals fits your bill of not being like a politician.
They are all self serving and want to dictate to people how they should think and live.
Did you find a minority party to support?
Mental Lental
Well-known member
I just discovered that he actually fired the US Pandemic Response team back in 2018 (maybe this has already been covered on this thread?)
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/
I had to Snopes it cos as shit as he is I thought even he couldn't be that stupid. It turns out he is.
What a knob.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/
I had to Snopes it cos as shit as he is I thought even he couldn't be that stupid. It turns out he is.
What a knob.
BadFish
Huge Member
- Oct 19, 2003
- 17,102
I always vote TB. However I am yet to find a politician or party to really get behind.
Usually the best of a bad lot for me I am afraid.
I sometimes wish I had your devotion but I haven't found anyone that I think deserves it as yet.
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Tyrone Biggums
Well-known member
See I can't go with that "best of a bad lot". I haven't voted for a party in many an election.
Last election the choices were Labor, Liberal, Greens and Socialist Party.
I'm not voting for any of them simply based on "best of a bad lot".
I live in the Corio seat, 40 years it's been a Labor safe seat Federally and State. So Labor don't even have to work for the vote in that seat, it's just gifted by partisan idiots.
Yet somehow it contains the most disadvantaged suburbs in the district despite Labor supposedly being the working peoples party.
My question is how do these people keep voting for the same party that keeps leading to the same outcome.
That I can be fined for not voting is the biggest disgrace. Forcing people to vote for people and parties who don't deserve it is the biggest insult.
Soylent Blue
Banned
- Mar 13, 2019
- 195
Hillary in jail wasn't a promise, most have been completed.
Immigration taxes would pay for it, wall.
https://www.trumpwall.construction/
A lot have been removed bar sanctuaru cities where they are a covid risk.
BadFish
Huge Member
- Oct 19, 2003
- 17,102
When you say you haven't voted for a party, have you found any impressive individuals to vote for? I think I found one reasonably impressive last time.
I think that everyone keeps voting for the same partie expecting the same outcome. The difference between the two main parties is not that stark. Neither are interested in solving the problems in said disadvantaged suburbs. That would take a massive change in political thinking. No-one votes for such a huge change and no-one expects said change. If that is what you are looking for then I am not surprised you haven't voted for so long.
To me though the best of a bad lot is better than the worst of a bad lot. I enjoy my tiny protest in putting smaller parties first and dream that one day other people will join me in trying something different. But as you say we always know how it will end up.
I agree with your last comment. I think that fining people for not voting is highly undemocratic.
Tyrone Biggums
Well-known member
That's one thing I'd love to see in the US is a more diverse political system. Like we have here, where at least micro parties can exist.
In California you'd have progressive parties winning seats and in other states the Libertarian Party would do well.
Two sets of groups that would be more beneficial to keeping the likes of Democrats and Republicans in check.
Look at how the progressives end up in the Democrats, they have all folded up quickly into being good like corporate Democrats these days.
The only politician who actually stood up to this recent corporate bail out in the guise of a financial stimulus was a Libertarian in the Republican Party.
If there were more parties then there would be more voices being heard.
Stumpy Tim
Well-known member
Personally I like that, though living in the UK I don´t have to. You can always spoil your ballot, which is a far better protest than not voting
Greg Bobkin
Silver Seagull
- May 22, 2012
- 14,847
No, they really haven't...