BensGrandad
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My suggestion was a deal with yellow buses providing the transport and we provide the parking space taking into account many games will not be at 3.00pm Saturday.
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Withdean Park and ride
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My suggestion was a deal with yellow buses providing the transport and we provide the parking space taking into account many games will not be at 3.00pm Saturday.
The Large One
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Did the years 2003 to 2008 completely pass you by?
The Large One
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And some home games - if not most - will be on Saturday (whether 12.30pm, 3pm or 5.30pm).
To have a functioning, reliable P&R, you have it working all the time, not via some arbitrary timetable that suits you.
Driving a P&R service into the city doesn't, in itself, create a problem. The problem is purely about the parking site, one which is used primarily as a P&R site, not one which is shared on an ad hoc basis. It would cease to function as a going concern as there would be little reliability in the service.
Ipswich, Norwich and Cambridge have all cut back their P & R services or increased fares as they are not paying and demand has dropped off. Shame as they were all excellent.
BensGrandad
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No it didnt as we were trying to get permission and needed Lewes Council we have the ground now which is outside of their domain so they should have no say in what happens, only within their area.
Lord Bracknell
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I used to manage the Withdean park and ride scheme on behalf of East Sussex County Council (who were the transport authority when the scheme was set up). We set the fare (at £1 a passenger / free for children) and paid the bus company the difference between their costs and the fares income received.
This arrangement came to an end when Brighton & Hove City Council (who inherited the service from ESCC) decided that they could no longer afford the subsidy costs of a bespoke P&R service. It reverted to the park & bus service that we see today - not only more expensive for passengers, but also longer journey times than the non-stop service that it was originally.
All very regrettable but - as with all public services - people get what they are prepared to pay taxes for.
Thunder Bolt
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We need permission from Lewes DC, as well as Brighton, for some of the changes needed this summer. Source? Martin Perry.
BensGrandad
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Sad days when it was lost with no likelihood of ever returning.
Lord Bracknell
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I'm certain that if the Big Lemon thought it would be affordable for them to provide a low-cost park and ride service, they would do so. Councillor Tom Druitt, the proprietor of Big Lemon, is quite well placed to understand what the City Council might like to see.
I'm aware of the fact that an all-singing-all-dancing park and ride system can be be incredibly expensive (and controversial) to establish, especially if you are looking for several edge of town car parks to use on a full-time basis.
Lord Bracknell
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The stadium car park is, of course, mostly in Lewes District.
Ultimately it was NOT public money in the first place. Standard Life the owners of Churchill Square were compelled to pay for it under a legally enforceable planning condition.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.theargus.co.uk/news/4030623.amp
Councils didn't dip into ratepayer monies, it came from Standard Life.
BensGrandad
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Ok but I didnt think that they had any say now but obviously Martin Perry will know best.
Lord Bracknell
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The Standard Life contribution only came along in the very final years of the dedicated Withdean P&R service. Before that, it was definitely funded from ratepayers and Council Tax. I know that, because I was the budget holder.
It's a good illustration of how Section 106 funding can backfire. Without a doubt, it's helpful if a developer can fund a public service. But this is achieved by means of a fixed cash contribution. When the money is spent, there is no more available. When developers' contributions are used to reduce (or eliminate, as in this case) Council Tax funding of a service, once the developer's money is used up, it is extremely burdensome for Council Tax funding to be restored. As the saying goes, "we haven't got a budget for that".
surlyseagull
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- Aug 23, 2008
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They also have a council that is overflowing with money
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You can get a £9 family saver on the mobile . £10 from the driver if you board a 27.
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Actually........you can Park off London Road it's cheaper there. And walk through North Laine/Laines/Lane
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The Large One
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2003-2008 obviously did pass you by.
Bennett's Field is in the Lewes District Council area, so of course they have the final say.
Sorry, wot...?
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Horsham have set such low prices because they are struggling to compete with other towns locally such as Crawley and Brighton. The Waitrose move to the new site has caused a lot of damage to footfall and trade in Piries Place for instance.
Brighton doesn't need to set the pricing to entice people to come. It's basically a cash cow.