NHS hospitals across England hit by large-scale cyber-attack

TomandJerry · May 12, 2017

He said: “Unable to access our clinical system – as a precaution our area has severed links to the wider NHS, which means no access to our national systems, no computers means no records, no prescriptions, no results, we are dealing with urgent problems only, our patients are being very understanding so far.”

portlock seagull · May 12, 2017

brightn'ove said:
They are for real.

If you get a cryptolocker virus I believe the police recommend that you pay the ransom if you want your files back. The timer wouldn't give you enough time to break the encryption even if you were a programming genius.

Is their anything you can do to prevent? I'm guessing norton anti-malware isn't going to cut the mustard in these instances? I'm a Luddite with a mac and really don't understand computers. Mate who's a computer engineer is typically who I speak to if got an issue.

Ernest · May 12, 2017

Any sign of Jeremy Hunt or Mother Theresa with some strong and stable leadership ?

brightn'ove · May 12, 2017

portlock seagull said:
Is their anything you can do to prevent? I'm guessing norton anti-malware isn't going to cut the mustard in these instances? I'm a Luddite with a mac and really don't understand computers. Mate who's a computer engineer is typically who I speak to if got an issue.

They come about just like any other virus - downloading things you shouldn't, getting tricked into clicking something etc. The best way to prevent it is to just be cautious. If you have precious files i'd recommend backing up your files up to an external hard drive and only plugging it back in to back up more files.

Herr Tubthumper · May 12, 2017

Ernest said:
Any sign of Jeremy Hunt or Mother Theresa with some strong and stable leadership ?

Seems they've their eye off the ball with Brexit and the election.

portlock seagull · May 12, 2017

Gwylan said:
The Blair government tried to implement one and it was an absolute disaster - costing about £12bn

It was under Blair but it wasn't the government who would have messsd things up would it? As said before, be the fault others such as government contractors and trust heads who probably swam well clear of the wreckage. We need to stop blaming politicians all the time, they're only part to blame; this is big corporate businesses who are responsible if not accountable.

Ernest · May 12, 2017

portlock seagull said:
It was under Blair but it wasn't the government who would have messsd things up would it? As said before, be the fault others such as government contractors and trust heads who probably swam well clear of the wreckage. We need to stop blaming politicians all the time, they're only part to blame; this is big corporate businesses who are responsible if not accountable.

They take the profits but not the responsibility

Westdene Seagull · May 12, 2017

Gwylan said:
The Blair government tried to implement one and it was an absolute disaster - costing about £12bn

I know - I was involved in the email part when I worked with EDS. Remarkably many of the problems weren't technical or financial. One very small example, given the number of employees in the NHS there are bound to be a number of people with the same name. The Trusts argued about which users would get the lower numbers in their email address - eg, which Trust would get harry.1.smith@nhs.gov.uk over harry.2.smith@nhs.gov.uk - yep folks, it really was that petty !!!!

portlock seagull · May 12, 2017

brightn'ove said:
They come about just like any other virus - downloading things you shouldn't, getting tricked into clicking something etc. The best way to prevent it is to just be cautious. If you have precious files i'd recommend backing up your files up to an external hard drive and only plugging it back in to back up more files.

Thank you. So I'm not going to get this sort of thing downloading stuff from reputable retailers like ITunes etc? I'd never download or purchase from companies never heard of. What I'm trying to say is, if you're not buying pirated things or visiting dodging sites (like NSC!) you're likely safe enough yes? Or can this just randomly happen even if you're a boring John Lewis customer, Apple branded, 8 bit gamer using technophobe like me?!!

Dick Head · May 12, 2017

Ditch Trident and we could afford to upgrade the NHS from Windows XP. Or use Linux.

Herr Tubthumper · May 12, 2017

Westdene Seagull said:
I know - I was involved in the email part when I worked with EDS. Remarkably many of the problems weren't technical or financial. One very small example, given the number of employees in the NHS there are bound to be a number of people with the same name. The Trusts argued about which users would get the lower numbers in their email address - eg, which Trust would get harry.1.smith@nhs.gov.uk over harry.2.smith@nhs.gov.uk - yep folks, it really was that petty !!!!

I wouldn't settle for 2.

Regards Herr.1.Tubtumper@Fatherland.com

portlock seagull · May 12, 2017

Westdene Seagull said:
I know - I was involved in the email part when I worked with EDS. Remarkably many of the problems weren't technical or financial. One very small example, given the number of employees in the NHS there are bound to be a number of people with the same name. The Trusts argued about which users would get the lower numbers in their email address - eg, which Trust would get harry.1.smith@nhs.gov.uk over harry.2.smith@nhs.gov.uk - yep folks, it really was that petty !!!!

That is the corporate world in a nutshell. Pathetic. Run by clever psychotics hell bent on power. The human race in other words!

Marshy · May 12, 2017

Quite a lot of bollox being spoke in this thread from someone who works in IT in the NHS.

portlock seagull · May 12, 2017

Herr Tubthumper said:
I wouldn't settle for 2.

Regards Herr.1.Tubtumper@Fatherland.com

I always had you down as more of a Heydrich than a Himmler?!!

Bry Nylon · May 12, 2017

Marshy said:
Quite a lot of bollox being spoke in this thread from someone who works in IT in the NHS.

Aren't you err, quite busy?

Titanic · May 12, 2017

Ernest said:
Any sign of Jeremy Hunt or Mother Theresa with some strong and stable leadership ?

Herr Tubthumper said:
Seems they've their eye off the ball with Brexit and the election.

In what way are either of them responsible for the anti-virus software on NHS Trust computers?

portlock seagull · May 12, 2017

Mustafa said:
It's this ransomware: http://myspybot.com/wcry-ransomware/

The virus can be removed and the data recovered.

you mean if I click on that link I get a virus?!! Why are you posting that?!! (Sorry, I'm a bit dim when it comes to the world of computers...still got my Commodore 64 somewhere...)

Marshy · May 12, 2017

Bry Nylon said:
Aren't you err, quite busy?

So far we are all good.... ;-)

Ernest · May 12, 2017

Titanic said:
In what way are either of them responsible for the anti-virus software on NHS Trust computers?

Didn't take long for Tory HQ to respond

TomandJerry · May 12, 2017

"This attack was not specifically targeted at the NHS and is affecting organisations from across a range of sectors.

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