sir albion
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O great another champagne socialist who the EU mongloids will walk all over....
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French Election - Hope wins over hate
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sir albion
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Yeah he's like a mummy's boy who needs mothering a lot lol.....this will get messyFillion was the best bet
did what any of us would have done,kept the family
lots of experience,would have steadied the ship
but the french prefer someone who shagged his teacher
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I think the title should read political correctness wins over common sense.
cunning fergus
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- Jan 18, 2009
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In economic terms France have voted in a far right leader, ex-Rothschild multi millionaire banker Macron will be Thatcherite leader prepared to take the axe to civil service jobs and funding.
Le Pen on the other hand was protectionist..........so yes across the channel civilisation will be ending shortly.
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I learnt a long time ago that common sense is different things to different people. This illustrates it starkly!!!
cunning fergus
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France have voted in a President that has no political party, if the the Assembly elections follow first round voting sentiment then Macron will be faced with an anti EU assembly.
Macron is the last throw of the pro EU dice, he needs to succeed in France but there's the rub. His view of success would look like TTIP which would have privatised the NHS. France is currently being governed in a state of emergency, so its desperate times, so Macron will fail as sure as the EU will fail.
Enjoy today because tomorrow it ends.
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So protecting your borders is not common sense then, protecting the security, safety and culture of your country first, but also looking forward protecting the jobs you already have and what you can offer in the future because from where I am sitting the sheer numbers of people arriving all over Europe now, and the advance of robotics will only result in less jobs for everyone. The French have voted for exactly the same again, nothing will change mark my words.
Tom Bombadil
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It's a general rule that the people who invoke it have the least themselves,
Green Cross Code Man
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I would disagree that 'the rot' has stopped in Europe. Wilders didn't win in Holland but increased his parties share of the vote and is the second largest party. Le Pen may not have won but she received 34.5% of support from the voting electorate. It is too early to say whether populism has peaked or not, these results tend to suggest not. Countries traditionally in the heart of the EU are riven by division every bit as great as that seen here in the UK. Worrying times for all who hold a more moderate political bent.
Spot on, the can has just been kicked further down the road again.
Make no mistake, trouble is afoot and will eventually impact upon many of the Wests inhabitants, we will have to eventually sort it out like it or not!
cheshunt seagull
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Interesting that, during this period of direct rule by Brussels: Blair was able take us into a disastrous war and Brown/Cameron managed to destroy public finances/services (delete as applicable).
Admittedly a lot of legislation has come from the European Parliament (of which we are a voting member) in areas like basic minimum levels of employment rights and the environment, safety standards etc. but these still gave our government plenty of scope to grow the zero-hours contract economy. I am not sure that working class Brexit voters were looking for even less employment security from the decision. However if they were looking for an increase in well paid, secure employment then they should have looked more carefully at the people financing and supporting the Leave vote.
Have you got any examples of major areas of legislation in which Brussels has subverted the democratic will of the British people? I don't think bananas and under-powered vacuum cleaners really count.
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Exactly right. Macron also said that French culture does not exist, it's in a few articles that I have read, tells you everything we need to know.
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Lincoln Imp
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An interesting post. You reveal that you think all FN voters are racist.
I disagree with you. Some will be racists. And some xenophobes. Some are simply taken in by fake news and endless propaganda and some are victims of an uncaring system. Some feel marginalised and some may well have voted the way they did as a result of carefully considering the democratic deficits in European institutions, or the corruption of the worlds we live in. Some just can't stand the supine politicians and dodgy chancers who rule our lives. And some are simply ignorant. There is a whole heap of reasons, similar to those that applied here. Which is all I said.
The "oooh, he's calling us racists" is entirely your own invention. I never have and I never will. But if it makes you happy...
Lincoln Imp
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See above post.
looney
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Well this is where we begin to differ in perspective. To me they are not terrorists seeking to create terror, they are jihadists seeking conquest, they are playing a numbers game by breeding immigration and culling and they have the upper hand on all three..
Now you may see your self insulated by things like wealth, property, technology, kinship and the rule of law, quite reasonable imo opinion as you mentioned the last one in your post. What you fail to understand any conqueror will seek to strip all that away from you by definition.
When Rome fell, the military disintergrated as members sought to protect their families and consequently the capital was sack by invaders.
spring hall convert
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I'd be more worried about the effects of global warming on global migration by 2050. Something that this current wave of nationalism seems to want to sweep well under the carpet.
spring hall convert
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Yup. Whatever our views are on Le Pen, if Macron fails to heed this warning that something isn't right in France, I fear you are right.
JC Footy Genius
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Interesting point. I haven't seen any information on this so just googled it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23899195
On the broader point, I think it depends on how well Europe does economically. More prosperous times may offset/suppress likely growing cultural tensions but when the wheels eventually fall off I think it will end badly.