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[Albion] Do 1901ers get too many "loyalty" points?
- Thread starter Bozza
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Mo Gosfield
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- Aug 11, 2010
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There are many STH's with multiple seats, who are contributing more per season than single seat 1901 ers but it doesn't entitle them to anything extra.
I sit in WSL, have three seats and pay over £2000 per season. If needed, I would commit to 5/10/15 years for these seats but that is not the requirement. I attend 8-10 away games a season but still struggle to have enough loyalty points for certain games ( e.g Villa )
Wherever you look you will find a gripe about entitlement/ loyalty etc. There is no easy answer.
HalfaSeatOn
Well-known member
Generally, loyalty points scheme works well. I do think that a small proportion of tickets should be up for grabs regardless of LP (to STH, memberships etc) to encourage hope and interest. Not all home tickets are season tickets (4000?) to encourage hope and interest.
studio150
Well-known member
What about home cup games during these seasons, would the ST holder not have attended them, and they get 20 points per home game, but 1901 get zero
kingcole
Well-known member
Haven't read all 9 pages so apologies if my point has already been raised. Someone who have been doing the 10 away games you say each season should have more loyalty points than a 1901 member who has not been to any, providing they are a season ticket holder.
Example, in the 2014/15 season they done 10 away games then 50 of those points would have carried over to the 2015/16 season. Another 10 game here earns a further 100 points. The total of 150 is halved and 75 carried over to this season.
Cue another 10 games and a further 100 points making a total of 175. Half will carry over so with the season ticket they will have 1087.
Oh, I see what you mean!
Yes, 1901 members do start with too many. Knock is down to 25
Horton's halftime iceberg
Blooming Marvellous
I am unhappy with the fact for the first time I was unable to get either Villa or Norwich tickets, its especially diffiuclt as I want to travel with people who have less points than me.
However I could easily approach clients and get an away ticket via their company 1901 tickets, I dont as, 1. I guzump someone who is also a regular away game ticket buyer and 2. I then don't get the loyalty points putting me furthur down the line.
I would like a bigger pool in the first round and a ballot system that gives more people a chance.
However I could easily approach clients and get an away ticket via their company 1901 tickets, I dont as, 1. I guzump someone who is also a regular away game ticket buyer and 2. I then don't get the loyalty points putting me furthur down the line.
I would like a bigger pool in the first round and a ballot system that gives more people a chance.
T soprano
New member
Maybe I should have made the second bloke on the worse salary have an even worse salary to make my point more valid
Maths not my strongest subject
why am I bovvered I'm in the top bracket of loyalty points anyway
Anyone who recalls the ticketing for FA Cup 3rd round game at West Ham in 2007 will be aware of the one particular circumstance that will cause this to go nuclear...
Your latter point is not a bad idea actually. After all, one gets loyalty points in many other retail operations.
Agree with all of this.
Sorry everyone if I've missed this.
If a 1901 member starts on 1100 points or whatever it is and attends some away games, are those loyalty points added to the 1901 member in the same way they are to the season ticket holder?
Or have I misunderstood, as I thought the 1901 member was then reset at 1100 at the beginning of the next season, therefore missing out on the away matches they attended.
Just wondered..... as that doesn't seem fair on the 1901 member if that's the case, perhaps they should have more....... ;-)
If a 1901 member starts on 1100 points or whatever it is and attends some away games, are those loyalty points added to the 1901 member in the same way they are to the season ticket holder?
Or have I misunderstood, as I thought the 1901 member was then reset at 1100 at the beginning of the next season, therefore missing out on the away matches they attended.
Just wondered..... as that doesn't seem fair on the 1901 member if that's the case, perhaps they should have more....... ;-)
This rush for tickets in the north interests me. We didn't sell out the allocation at Burnley when going well in the Championship - so, same teams, same ground, same journey-time; would we really just sell out because we're in a higher league?
1901 x 2 member; have done on average a dozen away games each season over the 6 years - mostly northern games as my son lives in Manchester. I would admit I bought and renewed for another 5 years partially on the basis of some priority on away tickets - including some hope value of premier league ticket access. Irrespective if asked I would be fine with a change to the terms of the 1901 agreement for some of the 100 points premium (50%) to accrete over the year rather than have all of the 100 points awarded on the first day of the season ((or alternatively for some proportion of any premium above a rolling carry forward for actual cup games paid - say over the last 3 years - where 1901 have no points awarded and STH do). In this case it might remove some of the issues that will come up if more attractive away games come earlier in the season.
Albion 4ever
Active member
- Feb 26, 2009
- 568
Next season we will enter the League Cup (or whatever it's called now) at Round 2. That's another potential early 20 points that regular STH will miss out on.
TheOldGirl
New member
I think the point that many are missing is the 5 year commitment that you make that cant be cancelled irrespective of what league we are in. Looking good now but how do you think it looked when Hypia was in charge, looking down the barrel of League one.Many people in the 1901 are not rich just normal people looking for a bit more comfort
Hampster Gull
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- Dec 22, 2010
- 13,462
i agree Bozza. The last time the loyalty points system was challenged (a diffierent challenge) Sir (i mean no sarcasm here given our recent heroics) Barber defended it in part by saying Lord Bloom had personally designed and he is a mathematician. I wouldn't argue but do feel there is over emphasis on the 1901 in this instance.
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Lenny Rider
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- Sep 15, 2010
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clippedgull
Hotdogs, extra onions
Very true. I purchased a 1901 membership with a lifetime seat licence pre the Amex opening and it knocked the stuffing out of me financially. I eventually sold 'in contract' and moved into the purchasers ESU seat (wasn't built at the time of 1901 purchase).
Superphil
Dismember
Do 1901ers get too many "loyalty" points?
To be fair, if they (1901 members) got Brentford tickets then it suggests that not so many non-1901ers were that keen, or was there a large allocation for that game?
To be fair, if they (1901 members) got Brentford tickets then it suggests that not so many non-1901ers were that keen, or was there a large allocation for that game?