You're right. We should just give up and just accept that evil tossers have won.
(Not voting for the party who are obviously going to make the discrepancy WORSE, might be a starting point?!?!?!)
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Diane Abbott in fine form this morning...
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You're right. We should just give up and just accept that evil tossers have won.
(Not voting for the party who are obviously going to make the discrepancy WORSE, might be a starting point?!?!?!)
I asked you a serious question. What would you do to increase tax revenue to pay for everything?
That would make everyone poorer.
ManOfSussex
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You can't tax the rich, Paul Dacre and Rupert Murdoch would never allow it.
MattBackHome
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I reckon that corporation tax could and should contribute more than it's current level of just 6% of total Govt tax receipts. I know the arguments against and don't think they hold water.
There's much less wiggle room in CGT or Inheritance tax I reckon.
There's much less wiggle room in CGT or Inheritance tax I reckon.
Wrong-Direction
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Shock horror another slip up, they can all be caught out whatever party they're from, nowadays it seems like a big game of who can hold off questions with bollocks the longest.
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No. Regardless of party, no decent politician would give us answers like that. She's in a special group with Natalie Bennett.
Personally, I would massively crank up inheritance tax - it is the one tax that seems genuinely fair to me. What's more, you can make a case that income tax, VAT, corp tax could all negatively impact the economy. I fail to see how cranking up inheritance tax would do that. It would just distribute a dead person's income more effectively.
Wrong-Direction
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m20gull
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But this should have been easy. It's a policy launch from her department and she is on every news outlet with the same story. Increase 10,000 officers over 4 years by recruiting 2,500 a year at about £30,000 a year. Long-term cost = £300m, cost in year 1 = £40m, rising to £120m, £180m, £240m (roughly). Total cost over 4 years about £700m. She had all weekend to prepare.
MattBackHome
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Yeah I agree - it's just that the actual additional revenue generated wouldn't be as much as a solid change to corporation tax. Though if you asked me about any specific numbers now I would sound a lot like Diane Abbott
I think we get around £5bn a year from inheritance tax? So if you were to add in a higher rate of 50% for upwards of £1m then you might get another billion quid? Not insignificant, of course (and you're right, it would definitely be worth doing) but I reckon you'd get A LOT more out of bumping corporation tax.
Wrong-Direction
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Sounds like she should've asked you to fill her boots
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It's worse than that.
This country is screwed whichever way it votes. Idiots everywhere.
m20gull
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I have a problem with this being fair. If your wealth is accumulated from after tax income why should it be taxed again on inheritance (and again when inherited for the next generation)? I can see it might feel like a victimless tax, and it makes sense for CGT to be applied to tax lifetime gains but additional tax seems mercenary to me, a sort of grudge tax on people who have accumulated wealth.
n1 gull
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I don't think you can raise it as everyone then just puts their money into trusts. Tony Benn even avoided paying it on his death
surlyseagull
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Sounds like she is being grilled by David Mitchell and Lee Mack on would I lie to you ........it is very worrying though that this woman is in a position of influence ,God help us !!
It's a tax on people who have accumulated wealth, but also those who inherited wealth themselves. I wouldn't call it a grudge tax. I've heard the "taxed twice" argument before, but I don't see how it is any different from money you've paid income tax on, which is then taxed again whenever you buy luxury goods, in the form of VAT. But I appreciate there are plenty who take your side over mine on this issue.
Couldn't you just cap the tax-free ceiling on trusts, or put conditions on it in order to make trusts less attractive to those looking to avoid inheritance tax?
LamieRobertson
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One consolation is that she's not shadow chancellor or education her understanding of basic maths is appalling
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Jezza was "not embarrassed in the slightest" by the gaffe, apparently.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39775693
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39775693