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Newcastle United (and West Ham) under investigation over transfers
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Thunder Bolt
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4 arrested in France
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4 arrested in France
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Your knowledge of the tax system is? Newspaper articles online?
His point was that HMRC staff would be better engaged in chasing the Amazon's for tax rather than NU/ West Ham.
The laws are there for employment taxes, and relatively easy to enforce.
Well intentioned governments all over the world, socialist and otherwise, have been unable to crack the avoidance by Starbucks & co. How possibly could HMRC staff tackle that, if governments can't?
Dorset Seagull
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Surely the Amazon, Starbucks thing is more about the gains from having them in the country. Whilst they may legitimately pay less corporation tax HMRC benefit hugely from the tax paid by the employment they create. Better to have thousands of employees contributing to the coffers with tax and not raiding the funds through benefits. I assume it works out as a bit of a win/win so we accept that they can exploit the system while we get tax revenues from the employment.
True, and Ireland / Luxembourg love this.
But isn't it immoral and commercially unjust that UK based coffee chains and one-offs pay a full 20% of profits in CT, whereas Starbucks pay 0%. Likewise Amazon over similar traders in the U.K.
Wrong-Direction
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This is all political , conservatives trying to look like they're cracking down on major tax avoidance just before an election.
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Enough to cover all 180's salaries for the next six months
Perhaps 180 there across Europe just for the raids to prevent people and documents going walkabouts?
Dorset Seagull
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I am no economist but consider this. We often hear about the poor old working class chap who despises the Amazons etc making huge profits. Now as far as I know there is not a Mr Amazon or a Mr Starbucks as they are all owned by the shareholders. The main shareholders in companies like that tend to be the pension funds. The pension funds buy these shares to get a return on the money invested by employees in various companies into their pension funds so they can have an income during their retirement.
These employees are actually the working class chaps who despise these large corporations so are moaning about companies that they effectively own themselves.
I grant you that my grasp of economics is probably at fault here but this makes complete sense to me!
Very unlikely. It's not as though all three clubs have been managed by the same man in recent years is it?
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Another thread hijacked by the liberal lefties crawling out from under their stones for a last gasp bit of Tory bashing. Bless 
Another thread hijacked by the liberal lefties crawling out from under their stones for a last gasp bit of Tory bashing. Bless
Amazon doesn't make huge profits, it has a very low margins considering the size of its turnover.
There's no Mr Amazon but Jeff Bezos (who owns about 20% of the stock) is worth about $ 72 billion, catching up with Bill Gates' position as the richest man in the world
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I heard a bloke on the radio say that HMRC are willing to accept about 15% of top players income can be treated as image rights, as sponsors want to be associated with the likes of Hazard, Pogba, Kane etc., but HMRC take a harder line if dealing with a full back from a small club such as Crystal Palace.
Dorset Seagull
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Who owns the other 80%.
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portlock seagull
Why? Why us?
- Jul 28, 2003
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Don't governments and hmrc have a relationship? Could George Osbourne have negotiated better? Should we just give up? Only tax poor people and poorer businesses like shop keepers because they haven't accumulated so much wealth they can withhold their fair contribution? Are they really not going to pay the same countries that they seek educated employees from, stability, monetary and politically? Without these they're screwed so maybe, just maybe, a bit more balls and unison from a more socially decent less selfish elite governing class could solve this or at least at least do better? Or is it fair that the top 100 wealthest companies in the U.K. pay zero corporation tax? Whilst everyone els out there, including all the self employed, are screwed year after year? You are aware that benefits fraud is about 1/25th of tax avoidance scams, sorry, schemes. Yet all our resources and headlines are focused primarily on...yes, you got it! So, sorry, I refuse to believe we cannot get monies owed from these global giants who depend on our stable demoncracy to make their obscene profits in the first place. Where there's a will, there's a way. We just haven't elected a government to date that's had the guts to fight it out yet. But it will happen. It has to eventually. Civil unrest will ensue as public services break down in the absence of fair taxation and then they'll have to pay.
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A bit embarrassing for West Ham after being given trust to occupy our National Stadium to then screw the tax payer who gave them the opportunity.