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    Are there now just 7 mainstay clubs in the PL?

    Every other team below 7th have been in the football league in the last 10 years. Next year at least 5, possibly more have been in League One or below in the last 10.

    Anyone from 8th to 20th is capable of a poor season and getting sucked into a battle.

    It used to follow that 2 if not 3 of the promoted teams would go straight back down. Not anymore. Potentially only 1 of the promoted teams this season will be relegated. Last season it was just 1.

    You look at 8th to 17th with us and potentially who we will be promoted with, and it isn't quite so daunting? West Brom, Southampton, Watford, Stoke have all scored under 40 goals and sit 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th respectively with 39+ points. It doesn't need a miracle any more.

    I'm very optimistic that we'll be okay next season. It is going to be better than perhaps some people expect.

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      We definitely are entering a Premier League where the money, if not distributed more equally, is being distributed is such large amounts that any team can be competitive, of they spend wisely. Leicester's success last season was driven as much by being able to compete for players as their spirit etc.

      If we invest wisely we can survive / compete with the bottom 12, and who knows where we can go from there?
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      It used to follow that 2 if not 3 of the promoted teams would go straight back down. Not anymore. Potentially only 1 of the promoted teams this season will be relegated. Last season it was just 1.
      I can't be bothered to look it up but do any stattos know how Championship winners fare?

      I note that Burnley, Bournemouth and Leicester are all still there - does it make a difference if you actually win the league?
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      I can't be bothered to look it up but do any stattos know how Championship winners fare?

      I note that Burnley, Bournemouth and Leicester are all still there - does it make a difference if you actually win the league?
      Perhaps it just reflects the fact that those teams knew they were promoted earlier and thus had an extra two or three weeks to prepare. Pure guesswork though - I really don't know how crucial those extra weeks might be...
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      I can't be bothered to look it up but do any stattos know how Championship winners fare?

      I note that Burnley, Bournemouth and Leicester are all still there - does it make a difference if you actually win the league?
      I think it makes a difference in preparation time. We know what league we are in next season already, and can start planning, can start offering better contracts to our players, start scouting for better players etc. Although hopefully some of this started a while back. The play off final is the end of May, so we have a lot longer to get things in place!
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      I think that being promoted early has been a huge benefit to us. I suspect that we were in touch with the agents of players we are interested in on Tuesday. Whoever wins the play offs will be 6 weeks behind and that is a significant delay.
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      With Sunderland and Boro coming down, on the back of other perennial choking dogs Villa I'd say 'no'.

      It pains me to say it, but I reckon palace judged it perfectly.
      The extra money has started to take effect, as the deadwood is cleared out in favour of fresh meat.

      I think it's going to be tougher to get a foothold in the division without the safety net of 'easy' points against bad teams.
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      With Sunderland and Boro coming down, on the back of other perennial choking dogs Villa I'd say 'no'.

      It pains me to say it, but I reckon palace judged it perfectly.
      The extra money has started to take effect, as the deadwood is cleared out in favour of fresh meat.

      I think it's going to be tougher to get a foothold in the division without the safety net of 'easy' points against bad teams.
      Yeah, but you would say that.
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      I can't be bothered to look it up but do any stattos know how Championship winners fare?

      I note that Burnley, Bournemouth and Leicester are all still there - does it make a difference if you actually win the league?
      Assuming Sunderland are relegated, none of the previous seven Championship winners to these three will have survived, although WBA bounced back in 2010 in 2nd place behind CH's Toon after winning in 2008 (interestingly with 10 points more 2nd time) and have stayed. There is immaterial difference whether win Championship or not within the sample size.

      The online BBC match report for Wigan game had more encouraging news that survival rates generally are improving, perhaps because there is a bit of flattening out below the '7' (Everton have to be included as they are never near relegation even if rarely near top 4 either). I have thought Prem was in effect three divisions: the '7'; the mid tier going nowhere but safe from early doors in the season; and the relegation scrappers. Now the gap between mid tier and scrappers seems to be reducing, as Swansea (& Palace) going south, and Leicester going north have shown. Hence there is no reason to suppose that Albion will deffo be in relegation battle.

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