General Election 2017

Scotchegg · May 10, 2017

Labour party (draft) manifesto pledges to end tuition fees and nationalise railways

In a leaking fo the Labour draft manifesto. Also covered briefly on Newsnight tonight.

Taken from the guardian:

Jeremy Corbyn will lay out plans to take parts of Britain’s energy industry back into public ownership alongside the railways and Royal Mail in a radical manifesto that will also promise an annual injection of £6bn for the NHS and £1.6bn for social care.

A draft document drawn up by the leadership will also pledge a phased abolition of tuition fees, a dramatic boost in finance for childcare, and scrapping the bedroom tax, the Guardian has learned. Sources say that Corbyn wants to promise a “transformational programme” with a package covering the NHS, education, housing and jobs as well as industrial intervention and sweeping nationalisation. One central promise will be to build 100,000 new council houses a year and alongside a policy to ban fracking. Excerpts seen by the Guardian says the party will “take energy back into public ownership to deliver renewable energy, affordability for consumers and democratic control”. It includes plans for a public owned energy company in every region of the UK. The manifesto will include a 20:1 pay cap for businesses that have public contracts.

There is also a promise to review decisions on welfare cuts, although not necessarily reverse them.

It's unlikely to happen, but in my opinion education that was:

Free at the point of need throughout life. And that means ending the cuts in the schools at primary and secondary level. It means free childcare. It means free school training when you need it throughout life. And yes it means scrapping tuition fees once and for all so we don’t burden our kids with debt for the future.

Would be an incredible step for this country.

Not a Corbyn fan really, but looks like we're at least being offered a CHOICE this election.

Maybot offers up a... STRONG AND STABLE BEEEP BEEP BOOP KILL ALL THE FOXES

or

Comrade Corbyn coming to nationalise your children with imaginary money?

Buzzer · May 10, 2017

I can go for both of those policies too. Sadly, the thought of having a Marxist Chancellor of the Exchequer amongst other things fills me with too much dread to support Labour.

Knocky's Nose · May 10, 2017

Bless Corbyn. He'll be promising a wooden chest full of gold coins to all single parents with less than one eye and a bad limp, road tax for all cars set at £50,000pa, and a maximum salary of £20,000 a year for Premier League footballers.

The man may have good intentions, but I've had better ideas sat on the bog grunting a Richard the third out.

GingerBeerMan · May 10, 2017

Knocky's Nose said:
Bless Corbyn. He'll be promising a wooden chest full of gold coins to all single parents with less than one eye and a bad limp, road tax for all cars set at £50,000pa, and a maximum salary of £20,000 a year for Premier League footballers.

The man may have good intentions, but I've had better ideas sat on the bog grunting a Richard the third out.

We're the fifth richest country in the world, we can afford these things if the correct level of taxes are set.

Brian Fantana · May 10, 2017

For the past few weeks, I've been predicting a Tory majority of c100 seats. If Labour adopt the leaked document as their manifesto, I reckon we could be looking at a 200+ seat majority.

Buzzer · May 10, 2017

GingerBeerMan said:
We're the fifth richest country in the world, we can afford these things if the correct level of taxes are set.

Corporation Tax is where we should be looking at. Receipts were £56bn last year. A 1% increase would bring in an extra £3bn with little risk of companies moving their taxes offshore.

The Rivet · May 10, 2017

Labour, possibly not just the joke of the day but, week, month, year. Election massacre so far.

pastafarian · May 10, 2017

beorhthelm · May 11, 2017

i particularly like the 20:1 pay cap for businesses with public contracts. assuming a generous lowest wage of 26k (no trainees or apprentices here), that means no company with CEO earning more than 520k can work on a government contract. that rules out about company that currently working, or with the scale to do so. given a more realistic lowest wage of ~15k, highest 300k, most NHS trusts and local authorities would breach the law. or in other words, even if you believe in the principle of restricting pay, this is far too strict to be workable, and shows a party out of touch with reality.

Buzzer · May 11, 2017

I hope there's something in there about dealing with the rise in anti-semitism in the UK. Sick and tired of it becoming a daily news item. Latest one sees the co-chair of Manchester Labour students reveal that there were 150,000 Jewish SS soldiers and Hitler was a Jew. He also gives us some parenting advice regarding homosexuality and women's rights. "Muslim feminism supporters? Muslim Gay rights activists? If my kids were any of these I’d slap them"

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I'm not pointing the finger at Corbyn on this. He's made his views clear but I don't understand how some people can support Corbyn yet think these comments are okay.

studio150 · May 11, 2017

A good move by the Labour party in wanting to take the country back to the 1970s.
I'm just off to stock up with candles for the power cuts that will happen.

On a more serious note this will give voters a clear choice between the 2 main parties as they will be so far apart on what they stand for against recent years where they were both similar in trying to capture the middle ground.

The first nail in the coffin for Labour?

Chicken Run · May 11, 2017

On a serious note it all sounds fantastic though doesn't it?

bWize · May 11, 2017

studio150 said:
A good move by the Labour party in wanting to take the country back to the 1970s.
I'm just off to stock up with candles for the power cuts that will happen.

I'd rather that than the Tories trying to take us back to the 1800's

wellquickwoody · May 11, 2017

Education 'free at the point of need' - well that should be the number of 18 year olds going to Uni halved hopefully.

The Guardian using the term 'sweeping nationalisation' is rather telling I think.

The Antikythera Mechanism · May 11, 2017

bWize · May 11, 2017

The trouble with people of your mind set is you completley ignore parasites like George Osbourne and the "1%" who work for and control the banks, finanacial institutions and big business, whilst turning a blind eye as they bleed our public services dry of funding and bring local Schools and the NHS to their knees. But yes, let's blame it on socialism and the less fortunate... :facepalm:

Corbyn is the nutter, yet Theresa May and the Tories are the the saviour to all of us for wanting to cut corperation taxes, privatizing or selling everything off in sight to foreign owners whilst making the inner circle even richer! Strange...

Chicken Run · May 11, 2017

Arundel_Seagull said:
If you want to play the "Meme" game... The trouble with people of your mind set is you completley ignore parasites like George osbourne and the 1% who control the banks/finanacal capatilist institutions whilst bleeding the rest dry. But yes, let's blame it on socialism and the less fortunate...

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beorhthelm · May 11, 2017

Arundel_Seagull said:
If you want to play the "Meme" game...

yeah, except its not right. the stated aims of socialism are government or other social ownership of the means of production and redistribution of wealth. see Venezuela for a fine example of socialism in action.

jakarta · May 11, 2017

Chicken Run said:
On a serious note it all sounds fantastic though doesn't it?

With the emphasis on Fantasy

midnight_rendezvous · May 11, 2017

JC wants free education and free parking at hospitals. May wants to hunt foxes and make the rich richer. It's such a tough call...

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