Tyrone Biggums
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I see much irony in the world today.
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General Election 2017
- Thread starter Giraffe
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I see much irony in the world today.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
If he can heal the PLP, that some of his big hitting MPs like Ummuna join the shadow cabinet on the evidence of this vote and Corbyn's performance, then Labour could go into any future election from a very strong base.
mikeyjh
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Corbyn is lauded and his supporters are feeling like this is a victory because the odds were, literally, stacked against him. He achieved what he did in the face of personal attacks across the board. May, at a time when she still claims that we should be focussing on Brexit called an election completely out of self interest, she took a gamble and it backfired big style. Remember this isn't just the reaction of Labour supporters, this is the media, the pundits, pretty much everyone.
Some will say this is a Tory victory, I suggest they listen to the tories on the radio and tv, watch their faces and body language and then tell me it feels like a 'win'. You must remember that the best some of us were hoping for was to limit the size of the majority so I'm sure I don't just speak for myself when I say this is a fantastic result.
Hope that helps.
Corbyn looks like he's going to take 41% of the vote - that's better than Blair in 2001 and 2005. He's also increased his party's share of the vote by around 30% I'm not sure that many leaders of any party have done better. It seems remarkably churlish to say that he didn't win.
I remember seeing several people on here (and in other places) saying that Labour was finished as a party. I remember after the last election I confidently predicted that the swing needed by Labour was so great that it couldn't possibly win and won struggle to make it a hung parliament - that went out of the window. It's an incredible result for Corbyn, he may not have won but he's shaken politics up.
Criticising him for not winning is a bit like criticising Hughton for not taking the Albion into the play-offs in 2014/15 - he had a lot to turn round.
How dim. DUP never linked with terrorists. Why not lump all muslims in with ISIS whilst you're making inaccurate links?
- Jul 10, 2003
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Because we have a FPTP system which means small changes in voting patterns can have large consequences. If we had a system that reflected votes cast, the parties would have to grow up and learn to work together, rather than continue this ridiculous punch and Judy system. (Is ridiculous abuse ?)
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
A government majority?
EU say the start of the talks could now be pushed back
Strong and stable
Strong and stable
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
EU Commissioner saying Brexit talks may not start on June 19th, because of the uncertainty.
JCL666
absurdism
- Sep 23, 2011
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I agree, but I'd like to hope that going forward there'll be more engagement with and from younger voters.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
A bit of haggling here and there......as you were.
Tories will still be the lead in our Brexit, just needing to grease a few palms along the way.
It's all a mess, a very, very costly mess.
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rocker959
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Exactly
KingKev
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Mainly because we were repeatedly told that he was a disaster for Labour and May would win a landslide of Blair proportions. She believed that and came a cropper when he massively outperformed her over the past 6 weeks.
He does deserve some credit for his performances and for a result that virtually no one believed possible, even when the exit poll predicted it. Fair play to him, but I'm happy that it wasn't an even better result for him.
Let's see how he does in mending fences inside Labour. If he can do that then he may even start to look like a credible PM by the time the inevitable election re-run occurs in the late autumn...
Quite. If you look it up in the dictionary, aside from its medical term, it is also "an evil or destructive practice or phenomenon that is hard to contain or eradicate." and this is clearly the context in which Colossal Squid used the term.
I thought it was their prerogative to not be bothered and turn up late. Lesson learnt for once.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Meade's Ball
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It is a thing of temporary, as all things are really, pleasure. I just hope that people are a tad tired now of how this has to be a time of suffering, that hope is beyond us and undeserved, that it's a time for ruthlessness and misery.
Saying that, the anxious part of me dreads the increase in bile and hatred that the Tories will produce to undermine the opposition, rather than just bring about moderate change with even a slither of a heartpiece. Ah frig it, i'll remain pleased that the party that stands for so much of what I oppose took a jab to its flustered gut, if not a knockout blow.
Saying that, the anxious part of me dreads the increase in bile and hatred that the Tories will produce to undermine the opposition, rather than just bring about moderate change with even a slither of a heartpiece. Ah frig it, i'll remain pleased that the party that stands for so much of what I oppose took a jab to its flustered gut, if not a knockout blow.
KingKev
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The problem is that those palms belong to the DUP...I can't see the parliamentary Conservative Party putting up with them calling the shots for very long. Another election beckons
larus
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Congratulations on your party of choice coming SECOND in the national election.
Bear in mind that Corbyn fought a good campaign and the Tories fought a disastrous one with a PM who totally lacks charisma, yet you still only managed to come SECOND.
Must be a remnant of the old ways of teaching: it's not the winning that matters, it's the taking part. Everyone's a winner eh
Nigel seems annoyed lol