General Election 2017

JetsetJimbo said:

The anger is about the hypocrisy. To cut this deal after the smear campaign against Corbyn is staggeringly hypocritical and cynical, even for this government.

Also, did you really just compare the SNP with the political wing of Loyalist terrorism?

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JC Footy Genius said:

It's possible they view trying to do a deal in 2017 with the DUP, the democratic representatives of the majority of Unionists in NI (like other parties [Labour] have tried to do in the past) isn't quite the same thing as associating/commemorating/sympathising with terrorists during the height of their terror campaigns. One mans smear is another mans truth.

Which party is the bigger threat to the ongoing unity of the UK?

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JC Footy Genius said:

Thanks.

The Tories are certainly to blame for calling the election then running a p*ss poor campaign. But I can't understand your or other Labour voters faux outrage re terrorist links or the impact on the peace process when you want Corbels yn/McDonnell running the country. I am sure you would all be on here wailing in anguish if a minority Labour government did a deal with the SNP to say in power .... not.

Ps If you're just revelling in the chaos and discomfort for the government do carry on. The left has been in the doldrums for some time it's understandable you are all getting a bit giddy.

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lawros left foot said:

I'll start with theP.S. The Tories haven't had a 30+ seat majority for over 30 years now, they had two open goals, 2010, against the backdrop of the global financial meltdown, then 2017, where they started an ill fated election campaign with a 20 point lead, and al opposition leader deemed as unelectable by most commentators and other politicos . They failed to achieve a majority in either case, and you say Labour are in the doldrums.
I'm personally more outraged by your hypocrisy, when you castigate me personally as a supporter of a man who supports terrorism, and then, when May cynically agrees a deal with the DUP, who are known for their support of the UDA and through the the UFF, with more than 400 deaths attributed to them, you still try to pass the buck,and compare this bunch of bigots, homophobes,and terrorist fellow travellers, to the SNP.

Words fail me.

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lawros left foot said:

I'll start with theP.S. The Tories haven't had a 30+ seat majority for over 30 years now, they had two open goals, 2010, against the backdrop of the global financial meltdown, then 2017, where they started an ill fated election campaign with a 20 point lead, and al opposition leader deemed as unelectable by most commentators and other politicos . They failed to achieve a majority in either case, and you say Labour are in the doldrums.
I'm personally more outraged by your hypocrisy, when you castigate me personally as a supporter of a man who supports terrorism, and then, when May cynically agrees a deal with the DUP, who are known for their support of the UDA and through the the UFF, with more than 400 deaths attributed to them, you still try to pass the buck,and compare this bunch of bigots, homophobes,and terrorist fellow travellers, to the SNP.

Words fail me.

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Kneon Light said:

How many nurses, teachers, police or firemen could that £1 billion have funded?
Absolute disgrace.

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JC Footy Genius said:

1.) 2010 wasn't an 'open goal', the Tories (as I am sure you would agree) are the party of big business, bankers, fans of reduced financial regulation. PS I didn't vote for them, you should try not voting for one side come what may it's very liberating.

2.) Did you miss the bit where I blamed the Tories for calling this election and messing up the campaign?

3.) I don't believe you are outraged. I think deep down you know Corbyn/McDonnell and their fellow travellers are poison for this country but your hatred for the Tories has clouded your judgement. Why do 400 deaths matter more than 1800 civilians and UK armed forces service personnel killed by the IRA?

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Tarpon said:

You may not believe he is outraged but your failure to address the allegation that you are a hypocrite rather stands out old chap. Just sayin.

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neilbard said:

A fair point indeed, so what do you suggest the Tories should have done then?

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JC Footy Genius said:

I come a very distant last place in the hypocrisy league when compared to the Corbyn/McDonnell fans.

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Bold Seagull said:

Only because you are wrong.

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JC Footy Genius said:

I have already said (in another thread) that I do not support Tories jumping into bed with the DUP which he knows. I come a very distant last place in the hypocrisy league when compared to the Corbyn/McDonnell fans.

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neilbard said:

A fair point indeed, so what do you suggest the Tories should have done then?

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Ernest said:

Held another election

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JC Footy Genius said:

1.) 2010 wasn't an 'open goal', the Tories (as I am sure you would agree) are the party of big business, bankers, fans of reduced financial regulation. PS I didn't vote for them, you should try not voting for one side come what may it's very liberating.

2.) Did you miss the bit where I blamed the Tories for calling this election and messing up the campaign?

3.) I don't believe you are outraged. I think deep down you know Corbyn/McDonnell and their fellow travellers are poison for this country but your hatred for the Tories has clouded your judgement. Why do 400 deaths matter more than 1800 civilians and UK armed forces service personnel killed by the IRA?

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