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    Where does it say "because of Corbyn"?
    True, maybe it should have read Abbott or McDonnell, or a n other. ..big choice

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      Greens in Plymouth attempting to do a deal with Labour - they won't stand in one seat if Labour don't stand in another. #Desperate
      Well duh. The Tories have the far right UKIP vote so the more split left are appealing for more wins. It's a good idea and worked last year.
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      Well duh. The Tories have the far right UKIP vote so the more split left are appealing for more wins. It's a good idea and worked last year.
      It might be a 'Good Idea' for two desperate parties but it's hardly a good idea for democracy. Despite his views on Brexit I think Peter Kyle is a good MP and would consider voting for him Brexit and Corbyn aside. If Labour did a deal in Hove to stand aside for the Greens I really couldn't bring myself to vote for them. If the Greens or Labour want to win the country over then put forward policies from their own parties that will make a 'majority' ( and yes I know it's not a real majority ! ) vote for them. Otherwise just merge the parties and have done with it rather than trying to do dirty deals.
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      Greens in Plymouth ...
      Green army?
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      Green army?
      As I clicked the post button I did think of that. Let's hope the Green Army have success whilst the other Greens don't.
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      I am forever bewildered why people chose to vote for a minority party which has no hope in hell of getting many MPs or having any real say in Westminster other than their own self importance and thus distorting the general picture and then having the balls to complain about the government that is elected.
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      It might be a 'Good Idea' for two desperate parties but it's hardly a good idea for democracy. Despite his views on Brexit I think Peter Kyle is a good MP and would consider voting for him Brexit and Corbyn aside. If Labour did a deal in Hove to stand aside for the Greens I really couldn't bring myself to vote for them. If the Greens or Labour want to win the country over then put forward policies from their own parties that will make a 'majority' ( and yes I know it's not a real majority ! ) vote for them. Otherwise just merge the parties and have done with it rather than trying to do dirty deals.
      Dirty deals have been done amongst other parties too.

      Its partially why we got a EU referendum in the first place, you should be thankful of 'dirty deals'.
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      I am forever bewildered.
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      It might be a 'Good Idea' for two desperate parties but it's hardly a good idea for democracy. Despite his views on Brexit I think Peter Kyle is a good MP and would consider voting for him Brexit and Corbyn aside. If Labour did a deal in Hove to stand aside for the Greens I really couldn't bring myself to vote for them. If the Greens or Labour want to win the country over then put forward policies from their own parties that will make a 'majority' ( and yes I know it's not a real majority ! ) vote for them. Otherwise just merge the parties and have done with it rather than trying to do dirty deals.
      Is first past the post a good idea for democracy?

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      Is first past the post a good idea for democracy?

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      As a UKIP voter last GE I'm hardly going to say yes am I ? No it's not - PR ( and true PR - not AV ) is the way to go BUT my only niggling doubt about that is that local communities would lose connection with 'their' MP. Nothings perfect but the current system is pretty sewn up by two parties ( one at the moment !!!).
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