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Who is the worst type of Socialist ?

Worst Socialist

  • Defected Tory

    Votes: 4 4.5%
  • Champagne Socialist

    Votes: 26 29.2%
  • Eco Warrior

    Votes: 3 3.4%
  • Corbynite

    Votes: 11 12.4%
  • Class warrior

    Votes: 13 14.6%
  • Tony Blair

    Votes: 26 29.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 6 6.7%

  • Total voters
    89






Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
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Jul 11, 2003
59,482
The Fatherland
What are your concerns about having a British passport once the UK has left the EU?

That it won't be as useful as, say, an Irish passport. I value the absolute freedom of movement angle it provides. And it's disappointing I'm now having to pursue other angles to maintain this. At the end of the day I'm British and I'd like my nationality to afford me the same benefits as the rest of Europe.
 


jon12345

New member
Jul 22, 2014
119
What is a socialist though ? Everyone's in the middle these days - I'd put myself as caught between Green and Lib Dem hell if I can be bothered to vote at all.

SOCIALISM
You have 2 cows.
You give one to your neighbour.

COMMUNISM
You have 2 cows
The State takes both and gives you some milk.

FASCISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and sells you some milk.

BUREAUCRATISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both, shoots one, milks the other and then throws the milk away.

TRADITIONAL CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell one and buy a bull.
Your herd multiplies, and the economy grows.
You sell them and retire on the income.

VENTURE CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell three of them to your publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the bank, and then execute a debt/equity swap with an associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax exemption for five cows.
The milk rights of the six cows are transferred via an intermediary to a Cayman Island company secretly owned by the majority shareholder, who sells the rights to all seven cows back to your listed company.
The annual report says the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more.

AN AMERICAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You sell one, and force the other to produce the milk of four cows.
Later, you hire a consultant to analyse why the cow has died.

A FRENCH CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You go on strike, organize a riot, and block the roads, because you want three cows.

AN ITALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows, but you do not know where they are.
You decide to have lunch.

A SWISS CORPORATION
You have 5,000 cows. None of them belong to you.
You charge the owners for storing them.

A CHINESE CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You have 300 people milking them.
You claim that you have full employment and high bovine productivity.

You arrest the newsman who reported the real situation.

AN INDIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You worship them.

A BRITISH CORPORATION
You have two cows.
Both are mad.

AN IRAQI CORPORATION
Everyone thinks you have lots of cows.
You tell them that you have none.
Nobody believes you, so they bomb the crap out of you and invade your country.
You still have no cows but at least you are now a Democracy.

AN AUSTRALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
Business seems pretty good.
You close the office and go for a few beers to celebrate.

A NEW ZEALAND CORPORATION
You have two cows.
The one on the left looks very attractive.

A GREEK CORPORATION
You have two cows borrowed from French and German banks.
You eat both of them.
The banks call to collect their milk, but you cannot deliver so you call the IMF.
The IMF loans you two cows.
You eat both of them.
The banks and the IMF call to collect their cows/milk.
You are out getting a haircut.

AN IRISH CORPORATION
You have two cows
One of them is a horse
 


Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Ultimately all socialism is varying degrees of crap across the whole spectrum from the feebly ineffective to the downright inhumane but the worst type of socialist has to be the champagne socialist because they're not really socialists at all. Truth be told don't really like the working-classes and they certainly don't want to mix with the proles and their unenlightened ways.

Socialism to them is merely a high-status opinion to virtue-signal at every opportunity. They never consider that socialism is far more than being willing to pay a few more pounds in tax. Put simply, you can't be a socialist and turn your nose up at people of a lower class than you.

Edit - ask yourself who you'd like to be stuck next to and who you are more likely to trust: Dave Nellist or Emily Thornberry?
 
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Biscuit Barrel

Well-known member
Jan 28, 2014
2,424
Southwick
That it won't be as useful as, say, an Irish passport. I value the absolute freedom of movement angle it provides. And it's disappointing I'm now having to pursue other angles to maintain this. At the end of the day I'm British and I'd like my nationality to afford me the same benefits as the rest of Europe.

Genuine question - What do you think will change? Will you not be able to enter countries that you can at the moment? Will you not be able to stay in countries for as long as you can now?
 




Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
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Jul 11, 2003
59,482
The Fatherland
Genuine question - What do you think will change? Will you not be able to enter countries that you can at the moment? Will you not be able to stay in countries for as long as you can now?

In short it won't be as simple as it currently is; moving to live/work/do business in say Paris is exactly the same as moving from Brighton to say Manchester. It will clearly be different post Brexit. I'm heading out now but I'll come back and answer this fully later with some quotes I have from business owners over here . Have a good evening and here's to 3 points.
 




Geoffbn2

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2014
279
Class Warriors, those who will happily spend all their money on what they want (Booze, fags and takeaways) and the whinge about others who they perceive to have more.
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
63,907
Withdean area
The hypocritical socialist. School their kids independently or move to multi £m house price areas (e.g. Islington or Primrose Hill, using elite state schools), own buy to lets, 'arrange' tax affairs taking advantage of tax schemes or any other means to minimise tax, whilst condemning the evils of free enterprise and those who are financially successful.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
63,907
Withdean area
Billy Bragg and Russell Brand, there are a couple for starters.
Oh and Russell Howard.

Great choices. The intermittent publicity given to Bragg and his music, by some media outlets, far outweighs his musical influence, whilst ultimately his political influence was zilch. He backed political losers. He never had the influence of 60's protest singers.

Brand. An unpleasant bully, belatedly backing Milliband in 2015, which probably lost votes.
 


Soulman

New member
Oct 22, 2012
10,966
Sompting
Great choices. The intermittent publicity given to Bragg and his music, by some media outlets, far outweighs his musical influence, whilst ultimately his political influence was zilch. He backed political losers. He never had the influence of 60's protest singers.

Brand. An unpleasant bully, belatedly backing Milliband in 2015, which probably lost votes.

Forgot about Diane Abbott, hideous person, hypocrite etc
 




Weststander

Well-known member
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Aug 25, 2011
63,907
Withdean area
Forgot about Diane Abbott, hideous person, hypocrite etc

In the 1980's a bitter leftie with her mate mate Bernie Grant. Remember his attitude towards the slaying of PC Blakelock.

In the Blair era enriched herself personally, then became a jovial backbencher on the Politics Show with Portillo. Appeared to have mellowed.

In 2015 did an s-turn, joining the bitter McDonnell Momentum mob, resorting to record-is-stuck dogma from the 70's and 80's. Anti wealth and high earners, anti USA and Israel, high taxation, spiteful taxation, pro Trade Union whatever the issue, apologist for enemies of the West and Democracy.

The chancer grabbed her chance to join the Corbyn movement. The only problem, she's backed a loser that will never have power.
 










Soulman

New member
Oct 22, 2012
10,966
Sompting
In the 1980's a bitter leftie with her mate mate Bernie Grant. Remember his attitude towards the slaying of PC Blakelock.

In the Blair era enriched herself personally, then became a jovial backbencher on the Politics Show with Portillo. Appeared to have mellowed.

In 2015 did an s-turn, joining the bitter McDonnell Momentum mob, resorting to record-is-stuck dogma from the 70's and 80's. Anti wealth and high earners, anti USA and Israel, high taxation, spiteful taxation, pro Trade Union whatever the issue, apologist for enemies of the West and Democracy.

The chancer grabbed her chance to join the Corbyn movement. The only problem, she's backed a loser that will never have power.

Don't forget giving it large about people that send their children to private school......then sending her child to private school.
 


The Antikythera Mechanism

The oldest known computer
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Aug 7, 2003
7,792
Why thank you kind Sir. And I'm also equally pleased to see someone else take issue with that dreadful lazy term 'champagne socialist'. What the **** does it mean, it's such a stupid idiotic phrase it makes my blood pressure rise when I hear people spouting off about it. Usually stupid people too but that's besides the point. Well done for taking the OP to task!! Silly silly list.

May I suggest Russel Brand and Charlotte Church, oh and Bob Geldof.
 








Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
NSC Patron
Jul 17, 2003
18,432
Valley of Hangleton
SOCIALISM
You have 2 cows.
You give one to your neighbour.

COMMUNISM
You have 2 cows
The State takes both and gives you some milk.

FASCISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and sells you some milk.

BUREAUCRATISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both, shoots one, milks the other and then throws the milk away.

TRADITIONAL CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell one and buy a bull.
Your herd multiplies, and the economy grows.
You sell them and retire on the income.

VENTURE CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell three of them to your publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the bank, and then execute a debt/equity swap with an associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax exemption for five cows.
The milk rights of the six cows are transferred via an intermediary to a Cayman Island company secretly owned by the majority shareholder, who sells the rights to all seven cows back to your listed company.
The annual report says the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more.

AN AMERICAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You sell one, and force the other to produce the milk of four cows.
Later, you hire a consultant to analyse why the cow has died.

A FRENCH CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You go on strike, organize a riot, and block the roads, because you want three cows.

AN ITALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows, but you do not know where they are.
You decide to have lunch.

A SWISS CORPORATION
You have 5,000 cows. None of them belong to you.
You charge the owners for storing them.

A CHINESE CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You have 300 people milking them.
You claim that you have full employment and high bovine productivity.

You arrest the newsman who reported the real situation.

AN INDIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You worship them.

A BRITISH CORPORATION
You have two cows.
Both are mad.

AN IRAQI CORPORATION
Everyone thinks you have lots of cows.
You tell them that you have none.
Nobody believes you, so they bomb the crap out of you and invade your country.
You still have no cows but at least you are now a Democracy.

AN AUSTRALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
Business seems pretty good.
You close the office and go for a few beers to celebrate.

A NEW ZEALAND CORPORATION
You have two cows.
The one on the left looks very attractive.

A GREEK CORPORATION
You have two cows borrowed from French and German banks.
You eat both of them.
The banks call to collect their milk, but you cannot deliver so you call the IMF.
The IMF loans you two cows.
You eat both of them.
The banks and the IMF call to collect their cows/milk.
You are out getting a haircut.

AN IRISH CORPORATION
You have two cows
One of them is a horse

[emoji23]brilliant
 


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