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The big issues - how do you stand on the Great Blue v Red passport debate

Red or Blue???

  • F****s not given either way

    Votes: 82 56.2%
  • Blue and with a profile of Churchill's head thereon to show those foreign Johnnies.

    Votes: 41 28.1%
  • Leave it the same to remind us of what we have lost by leaving

    Votes: 23 15.8%

  • Total voters
    146


jimhigham

Je Suis Rhino
Apr 25, 2009
7,743
Woking
Whatever the eventual outcome I expect the government to stripe us £80 to renew it

In my work I specialise in document security and forgery. You'd be amazed at how much goes into the little booklet you need to go on holiday. I've been taken on a tour of the De La Rue plant where they watermark the paper that goes into such documents. That's just the watermarking process. The elaborate printing is done elsewhere. This stuff does not come cheap and is done so for a good reason. It's precisely so that when a forgery does cross your path, nine times out of ten it is bleedin' obvious. In this instance, I don't begrudge coughing up the money for what it is a very good secure document.
 




Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
Well said sir. Almost brings a tear to the eye .. knew you would see the light eventually.

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:salute:

The typography can be much clearer when it just says "England and Wales" at the bottom.
 


rippleman

Well-known member
Oct 18, 2011
4,578
And once the passport issue is sorted, I hope we are getting pounds and ounces back to replace those daft and confusing kilograms.

I haven't eaten a broccoli floret since they went metric.
 


rippleman

Well-known member
Oct 18, 2011
4,578
No it doesn't. It is asking whether older people considered their children and grandchildren when voting in the referendum, or talked to them about it. My daughter-in-law was disgusted at how her parents voted.

Nope - don't get this at all! Why should anybody consider other peoples opinions when voting? Makes no sense. It was a referendum; we all got one vote each. I voted as I wished to vote and didn't give a moments thought to the opinions of those older or younger than me, or my cat.

To be "disgusted" at how somebody else exercised their democratic franchise really shows they have little else in their lives. The world has bigger problems.
 


happypig

Staring at the rude boys
May 23, 2009
7,972
Eastbourne
In my work I specialise in document security and forgery. You'd be amazed at how much goes into the little booklet you need to go on holiday. I've been taken on a tour of the De La Rue plant where they watermark the paper that goes into such documents. That's just the watermarking process. The elaborate printing is done elsewhere. This stuff does not come cheap and is done so for a good reason. It's precisely so that when a forgery does cross your path, nine times out of ten it is bleedin' obvious. In this instance, I don't begrudge coughing up the money for what it is a very good secure document.

I'll begrudge it if they want me to pay again after renewing it in November last year.
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
70,246
I'll be happy with whatever passport saves me having to queue up at Gatwick immigration in line with people from a couple of dozen other nations. Fair enough, I hate any kind of queue, but would it REALLY have been that difficult to fast track UK citizens into UK, French citizens into France, German citizens into Germany etc.
 




pearl

Well-known member
May 3, 2016
12,819
Behind My Eyes
And once the passport issue is sorted, I hope we are getting pounds and ounces back to replace those daft and confusing kilograms.

I haven't eaten a broccoli floret since they went metric.

and over turn the smoking band ... get the high chairs out the pubs!
 








Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
This government is committed to ending Freedom of Movement. The EU parliament will insist on rights being reciprocal. So, unless the UK approach changes pretty dramatically then, in two years' time, my kids and I will not have the right to live, work, and study in the other 27 EU countries, which we currently do.

We *might* still be able to move. We don't know. It's pure speculation. But saying that we won't have the *right* to unless there's a change of direction/government, and that this is reflected in the change of passports, is a solid prediction.

And it perfectly illustrates how the young people of the UK have been ****ed over by the older generations who voted to leave the EU.

Why don't you apply for asylum,then,instead of whining? Or is that just for brown people?
 




DavidinSouthampton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 3, 2012
16,597
I have no children, therefore no grand children, does that mean my vote is insignificant?

Of course not. Everybody should exercise their democratic right......... even if they're wrong..........
 








DavidinSouthampton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 3, 2012
16,597
Nope - don't get this at all! Why should anybody consider other peoples opinions when voting? Makes no sense. It was a referendum; we all got one vote each. I voted as I wished to vote and didn't give a moments thought to the opinions of those older or younger than me, or my cat.

To be "disgusted" at how somebody else exercised their democratic franchise really shows they have little else in their lives. The world has bigger problems.

If somebody has children or grandchildren, they might just conceivably be interested in how things will work out for their grandchildren as a result of how they might vote. They might talk about issues. Doesn't necessarily mean they have to agree.

And I think the "disgusted with how parents voted " bit was out of concern for the world and its bigger problems that you mention, her view being that BREXIT will make the world a worse place.
 


GT49er

Well-known member
Feb 1, 2009
46,757
Gloucester
If somebody has children or grandchildren, they might just conceivably be interested in how things will work out for their grandchildren as a result of how they might vote.
I have children and grandchildren. I am interested in how things will work out for my grandchildren as a result of how I might vote. I considered all the options, carefully and diligently. I fully understood the importance of the issues, and weighted up the pros and cons. As a result of which, with a clear conscience, I voted leave.
 


GT49er

Well-known member
Feb 1, 2009
46,757
Gloucester
And once the passport issue is sorted, I hope we are getting pounds and ounces back to replace those daft and confusing kilograms.

I haven't eaten a broccoli floret since they went metric.

I shouldn't worry. They've replaced metric - they're just pre-packed and £1.25 now.
 






Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,957
Crawley
Nope - don't get this at all! Why should anybody consider other peoples opinions when voting? Makes no sense. It was a referendum; we all got one vote each. I voted as I wished to vote and didn't give a moments thought to the opinions of those older or younger than me, or my cat.

To be "disgusted" at how somebody else exercised their democratic franchise really shows they have little else in their lives. The world has bigger problems.

Like the colour of our passports?
 


W.C.

New member
Oct 31, 2011
4,927
I have children and grandchildren. I am interested in how things will work out for my grandchildren as a result of how I might vote. I considered all the options, carefully and diligently. I fully understood the importance of the issues, and weighted up the pros and cons. As a result of which, with a clear conscience, I voted leave.

erm, so you agree with Davidinsouthampton then?
 


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