Good news re: Connor Goldson

Coldeanseagull · Mar 31, 2017

That's very strange, I didn't see the seven words written either. It must be one of them blind spot thingys.
Fantastic news for the lad, must be a relief for him.

Triggaaar · Mar 31, 2017

AZ Gull said:
No we weren't.

Ok good, I don't know where I got that from, just what I thought I'd read/heard.

EDIT: I think I got it from Stockdale, who said to him "if you're looking to have children, you'd rather have a father than a football player". And Stockdale said "if he can go on to come back after this season it will be brilliant", giving the impression it's not a guarantee.

Two Professors · Mar 31, 2017

Great news.Back and fully fit for the Prem,I hope.

warmleyseagull · Jul 26, 2017

Article in Times today: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...h?shareToken=57e64da328c623db2388ee37fe12d29d.

clarkey · Jul 26, 2017

warmleyseagull said:
Article in Times today: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...h?shareToken=57e64da328c623db2388ee37fe12d29d.

Great stuff, thank you.

Brought a tear to my eye, but that may have just been the thought of Dale Stephens trying to hit a pass along the floor which ended up at chest height.

hans kraay fan club · Jul 26, 2017

Thunder Bolt said:
I doubt that we'll ever know the specific condition, and why should we? Everyone's medical history is private.
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Quite right too, until now when CG seems happy to share those details, to raise awareness:

During the routine scan at Brighton, the diameter of Goldson’s aorta was discovered to be larger than normal. He was told to stop exercising immediately.

“The surgeon explained it’s like a balloon and it gets bigger and bigger and it can just pop — or you can be fortunate and it never goes,” Goldson says.

“The average person has [an aorta of] 4cm and you’re at risk at 5cm. My last scan was 4.9cm. So I was very close. The specialist said he couldn’t let me play football again because if anything had happened it would have come back on him.

Stat Brother · Jul 26, 2017

“We did a passing drill and Dale Stephens hit one to me. It was meant to be on the floor but it came at chest height"

It's gonna be a long season.

Thunder Bolt · Jul 26, 2017

hans kraay fan club said:
Quite right too, until now when CG seems happy to share those details, to raise awareness:

I hope the FA, PL and EFL take notice, and do ask clubs to monitor players. You'd have thought the Fabrice Muamba story would've raised awareness.

I hope Connor gets his chance to play in our first team, this season.

Harry Wilson's tackle · Jul 26, 2017

Heart research is my area. I had been under the impression (with no data, just a probability consideration) that CG had hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (an enlarged heart that carries a risk of sudden lethal cardiac arrhythmias). It is hugely cheering to find he has instead got the very beginnings of an aortic aneurysm. This is a potentially serious condition because the buggers can get very distended and burst. However, when caught early they can be monitored and, if necessary, dealt with. In itself it will not affect CG's ability to play football whatsoever.

CG has had surgery which means, I imagine, he has had a stent. Now he's back, there is no reason he can't play at the highest level for another ten years. Yay! :rock:

You can read more about it here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aortic_aneurysm

hans kraay fan club · Jul 26, 2017

Harry Wilson's tackle said:
Heart research is my area. I had been under the impression (with no data, just a probability consideration) that CG had hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (an enlarged heart that carries a risk of sudden lethal cardiac arrhythmias). It is hugely cheering to find he has instead got the very beginnings of an aortic aneurysm. This is a potentially serious condition because the buggers can get very distended and burst. However, when caught early they can be monitored and, if necessary, dealt with. In itself it will not affect CG's ability to play football whatsoever.

CG has had surgery which means, I imagine, he has had a stent.

from the Times piece:

Goldson lifts his training top to reveal a six-inch vertical scar where his breastbone was broken and a surgeon put a shield around the root of the valve in February.

Easy 10 · Jul 26, 2017

Great article, and heartening to hear (scuse the pun) how the squad rallied round him, especially Dunk visiting and walking him round the ward.

I thought The Times Online was behind a paywall though, surprised to be able to read that.

warmleyseagull · Jul 26, 2017

Easy 10 said:
I thought The Times Online was behind a paywall though, surprised to be able to read that.

It used to be - they changed protocol about a year ago for paying subscribers.

Hillian1 · Jul 26, 2017

This will probably prove to be an unpopular viewpoint:

Is it not beyond the realms of possibility that the Palyers themselves take responsibility, they are after all incredibly wealthy young men with quite a fair bit of free time on their hands. I manage to get an annual MOT for myself while juggling an 8.30 to 5.30 full time job and having weekends taken up with grandparent duties and err, watching incredibly wealthy young men play football.

Easy 10 · Jul 26, 2017

Hillian1 said:
This will probably prove to be an unpopular viewpoint:

Is it not beyond the realms of possibility that the Palyers themselves take responsibility, they are after all incredibly wealthy young men with quite a fair bit of free time on their hands. I manage to get an annual MOT for myself while juggling an 8.30 to 5.30 full time job and having weekends taken up with grandparent duties and err, watching incredibly wealthy young men play football.

Agree to an extent, but players are not just employees to clubs - they are assets, some with a sizable value attached. Its therefore in the clubs interests to do all they can to ensure that their assets are in good health and in full working order.

Hillian1 · Jul 26, 2017

Easy 10 said:
Agree to an extent, but players are not just employees to clubs - they are assets, some with a sizable value attached. Its therefore in the clubs interests to do all they can to ensure that their assets are in good health and in full working order.

Oh I agree with that, I myself an asset to my company, but more importantly I realise the need to be able to earn a living by not dropping down dead.

The wife wouldn't mind that much I suspect as I am quite well insured.

Easy 10 · Jul 26, 2017

Hillian1 said:
Oh I agree with that, I myself an asset to my company, but more importantly I realise the need to be able to earn a living by not dropping down dead.

The wife wouldn't mind that much I suspect as I am quite well insured.

I'm sure your company value you as an asset, but the difference is, they can't sell you to someone else for £5m.

Your wife is another matter though :lolol:

LamieRobertson · Jul 26, 2017

Interesting article

Shropshire Seagull · Jul 26, 2017

Hillian1 said:
This will probably prove to be an unpopular viewpoint:

Is it not beyond the realms of possibility that the Palyers themselves take responsibility, they are after all incredibly wealthy young men with quite a fair bit of free time on their hands. I manage to get an annual MOT for myself while juggling an 8.30 to 5.30 full time job and having weekends taken up with grandparent duties and err, watching incredibly wealthy young men play football.

Your missing a couple of points - I'll use a car as an example to explain.

I could afford to have my car serviced every week, e.g. tyre and oil check, but I choose not to because it's not an out and out performance car - just needs to be reliable enough to get from a to b. Now, them F1 cars, they get EVERYTHING checked with almost constant data monitoring because performance is critical to their success.

Now realign that thought for your fitness needs [I'm assuming you're not a professional sportsman] with the needs of a professional sportsman like Goldson.

Now do you see why his benefactor [the club] chose to spend good money on ensuring their resourses are in tip-top condition to perform at their peak. With respect, your fitness and health just needs to be "okay".

Follow?

Hillian1 · Jul 26, 2017

Shropshire Seagull said:
Your missing a couple of points - I'll use a car as an example to explain.

I could afford to have my car serviced every week, e.g. tyre and oil check, but I choose not to because it's not an out and out performance car - just needs to be reliable enough to get from a to b. Now, them F1 cars, they get EVERYTHING checked with almost constant data monitoring because performance is critical to their success.

Now realign that thought for your fitness needs [I'm assuming you're not a professional sportsman] with the needs of a professional sportsman like Goldson.

Now do you see why his benefactor [the club] chose to spend good money on ensuring their resourses are in tip-top condition to perform at their peak. With respect, your fitness and health just needs to be "okay".

Follow?

With respect, the point of the article is that clubs should do more, so aren't ensuring they are in tip top condition.

But as I maintain, personal responsibility should come in to play here, where will it end? will the clubs start employing professional bottom wipers and hand washers to ensure no fecal cross contamination occurs thus resulting in salmonella and not being able to play.

The Large One · Jul 26, 2017

Hillian1 said:
This will probably prove to be an unpopular viewpoint:

Is it not beyond the realms of possibility that the Palyers themselves take responsibility, they are after all incredibly wealthy young men with quite a fair bit of free time on their hands. I manage to get an annual MOT for myself while juggling an 8.30 to 5.30 full time job and having weekends taken up with grandparent duties and err, watching incredibly wealthy young men play football.

If they do do that, I would suggest it's in consultation with the club they're at; make sure everyone is in the loop.

To get a second opinion on their health, and then go their own way is not conducive to good working practices. And it could lead to further problems later.

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