Germany vs England - tonight 7.45pm

Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003

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• Mar 23, 2017

• #141

Depressingly, I thought we missed Rooney.

 

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Brovion

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• Mar 23, 2017

• #142

CHAPPERS said:

With respect, the issue surely is totally the meaning of the lyrics. Harking back to a war in which millions died, of many different backrounds (nationality, race, creed) including your own and celebrating it as a victory is obscene and embarrassing.

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Again, as for Albumen I don't totally disagree with your point. I cringe when I hear 'Two world wars and one world cup' along with 'No surrender' - but I think '10 German bombers', celebrating Britain's victory in the Battle of Britain, is fair enough. With the caveats that as I said before the song itself is shit, and of course it wasn't just England - but then all nations take liberties with their historical exploits.

Tom Hark said:

Did England win two World Wars then? Don't the Irish, the Americans and the Scots even get credited with an assist?

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And the Welsh! Not forgetting the USSR and the Red Army. Like I said to Chappers, all nations take historical liberties and big themselves up. I just wish we had something better to sing about, but then I often feel the same way about the Albion's limited, derivative and largely generic repertoire of songs.

 

Tom Hark Preston Park

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• Mar 23, 2017

• #143

Brovion said:

And the Welsh! Not forgetting the USSR and the Red Army.

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And the ANZACS. And the Indians. And the rest. Apology accepted on behalf of the non-English allied nations of the world for your crap comment

To be fair, you probably didn't mean for it to come out as crap as it sounded eh? Even so, you'll still be disappointed with that effort.

 

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Brovion

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• #144

Tom Hark said:

And the ANZACS. And the Indians. And the rest. Apology accepted on behalf of the non-English allied nations of the world for your crap comment

To be fair, you probably didn't mean for it to come out as crap as it sounded eh? Even so, you'll still be disappointed with that effort.

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No, actually on balance despite its historical inaccuracy I'll stick with it. If the Americans can produce TONS of films claiming they won WW2 single-handed then English football fans can sing a crap song claiming we did.

 

Paxton Dazo

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Mar 11, 2007

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• Mar 23, 2017

• #145

A few of my mates went last night, and said it's one of the best away ends (atmosphere wise) they've ever been in. Not sure if it came across on TV, though.

 

Pretty pink fairy

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• Mar 23, 2017

• #146

didn't hear the Germans singing the Horst wessel ..................WHAT A LET DOWN
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