Thunder Bolt
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Kurt Cochran from Utah killed in terror attack in Westminster, wife Melissa seriously injured, family spokesman says
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Police office stabbed and assailant shot outside Parliament, Parliament in lockdown
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symyjym
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Agreed, criticising a religion is fine. There are plenty of examples of people criticising Christianity, Catholicism etc on NSC, but what Golstone1976 is saying is if you don't agree with those views that's fine, but don't give out personal abuse to the user who says them.
NSC works best when everyone is allowed to say what they think about something without it becoming personal to the user or others. As the Brexit discussions show there are strong opinions on either side and those opinions should be respected even if they do not concur with your own.
Also if you find yourself getting cross with a view, take a break. As I did last night. And watch Beauty and the Beast (AGAIN). The world seems a nicer place with Belle
Ok I see. So it's not discussing Islam that is the problem. And yep I am partial to these film types. The Huntsman is quite a good one.
symyjym
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This is a discussion regarding how many Muslims support Daesh.
https://www.quora.com/How-many-Muslims-support-Daesh-Why
https://www.quora.com/How-many-Muslims-support-Daesh-Why
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HellBilly
What relevance has that actually got to this thread about an attack in this country by a "home grown" attacker ?
Thunder Bolt
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The man police believe to be responsible for the terrorist attack in Westminster has been formally identified as Khalid Masood, Scotland Yard says.
Masood, aged 52, was born in Kent and detectives believe he was most recently living in the West Midlands.
Masood was not the subject of any current investigations and there was no prior intelligence about his intent to mount a terrorist attack, police say.
However, he was known to the police and had a range of previous convictions for assaults, including GBH, possession of offensive weapons and public order offences.
He has not been convicted of any terrorism offences.
Anyone with any information about Masood can call the Anti-Terrorist Hotline 0800 789 321
The man police believe to be responsible for the terrorist attack in Westminster has been formally identified as Khalid Masood, Scotland Yard says.
Masood, aged 52, was born in Kent and detectives believe he was most recently living in the West Midlands.
Masood was not the subject of any current investigations and there was no prior intelligence about his intent to mount a terrorist attack, police say.
However, he was known to the police and had a range of previous convictions for assaults, including GBH, possession of offensive weapons and public order offences.
He has not been convicted of any terrorism offences.
Anyone with any information about Masood can call the Anti-Terrorist Hotline 0800 789 321
Some interesting figures. But, just for perspective, there are, for instance, a lot of Christians who also think homosexuality should be illegal.
I also don't believe you can or should extrapolate people's views of suicide bombings/violence against civilians when they live somewhere like the Palestinian Territories to be representative of the views of Muslims in a country like Britain. Violence there (including against them) is an every day occurrence.
A vague term like 'sympathised' with suicide bombers is virtually meaningless. That article you link to actually says that 3% sympathised only 'to some extent'. It doesn't mean they're all out strapping on explosives. I don't sympathise to any extent but then my original heritage isn't a country that's had the shit bombed out of it for years or one that's seen its genuine refugees cold-shouldered. That could well make people feel differently. 'Sympathise' is a poor choice of word as some of those who responded could be expressing 'sympathy' for those who have had their minds warped into doing this.. it's far too ambiguous.
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Thunder Bolt
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I don't know a single Christian who thinks homosexuality should be illegal.
You don't but then again you don't live in Russia or America or in fact are the USA's Vice President.
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No, we talk about it freely. We've discussed religious doctrine- everything. His family are what we would term as liberals. The wider issue, for him, is the worry such incidents like that yesterday can cause those who just quietly get on with their lives. Years ago nobody really gave much thought to the Muslim population (well, the wider Asian population is a better description as I do believe that it is a race issue for many). In fact they were mostly viewed in a positive almost admirable way. Highly academic and skilled etc. Then came the Twin Towers. But, apart from the radicalised, nothing has really changed except the negative perceptions that have been allowed to fester. The problem is that this becomes a mirrored form of prophecy.
Years ago when I used to stay in Birmingham with a friend who was (ironically) a Christian evangelist (I am Christian myself) we were in a street where most of the population were Asian. It just never occurred to me to think anything of it. But now there is this underlying and subtle narrative of the dangers of change in demographics which actually occurred a long time ago. A narrative fueled by the terrors that a few have inflicted upon us and the inevitable sub divisions of reclusive culture that we see in every part of society.
symyjym
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He may have been home grown but this ideology is exported over here from the countries listed in the link.
But it was a follow on from http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?p=7854826#post7854826
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
This is true, but as far as I am aware, it's not illegal in America. I don't know what the legislation is in Russia.
I've read the article and note they don't say that homosexuality should be illegal.
I've personally known a couple. Born Again Christians. Very nice guys otherwise but shockingly intolerant if you got them on to the subject. And this was the belief of their church.
Thunder Bolt
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Which church?
But he said a "single Christian", not a couple...
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Just devastating.
Just devastating.
Couldn't tell you. Didn't interest me that much so we steered clear of the subject because one of them was a friend in other respects. Born Again Christian is as much as I know.
symyjym
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It is true that since 911 and Iraq Muslims in this country have become more Muslim. So as a Christian yourself have you ever discussed the crucifixion event with your friend?
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HellBilly
Ok it might not say that exactly, but they have something to do with the fact the do not want to be court rather than what they think.
Reason 6 !!
6. The cause of homosexuality is complex, yet there are common, agreed-upon contributing factors:
the person’s self-will
A dysfunctional home environment
Spousal or child abuse
Seduction by peers or authority figures. (Studies show approximately 85 percent of lesbians were abused or molested and 40 percent of gay men were seduced or molested by older gay men when they were young boys.)
Media influence
Pornography
Drugs
Absence of a father
Childhood experience/experimentation
Confusion about identity/misunderstanding “artistic bent”
If that synopsis does not indicate their true core beliefs I do not know what to say to you...
They clearly think it is illegal, please don't make excuses for such views
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
They don't agree with it, but there is nothing there which says that gays should be in prison. I am disputing the statement that Christians think homosexuality should be illegal, not making excuses.