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    What is a decent,reliable brand (GM) will be dragged down to Peugeot/Citroen sh#t quality. Look what happened when Nissan, a reliable though inexpensive brand, got involved with Renault
    They have and will both sink to the lowest common denominator.Before anyone slates me for this, I work in the motor trade and have seen the quality demise first hand.Just an opinion though like!

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      I have no knowledge of the motor industry or really any great interest but listening to the news I took it that the CEO of PSA was giving a veiled threat of any disruptions with strikes etc and we will close the factorys toe the line and produce the goods and they will stay open.
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      British car manufacturing was on its knees a couple of decades ago, today a flexible and productive workforce has turned the industry into a huge success story employing close to a million jobs.

      If there are tariffs it will be a disaster for us and Europe knows it. Think we'll need to get out the chequebook
      It's more assembly as opposed to manufacturing though. And there could be issues if there are two many parts imported from the EU.
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      Another view on the Brexit angle.

      A “hard” Brexit would be good news for Vauxhall’s supply chain, the carmaker’s new owner has said as he sealed the long awaited £2bn purchase from *General Motors.

      Carlos Tavares, chairman of PSA whose existing brands include Citroen and Peugeot, said that were the UK to leave the European Union without any form of deal, it would lead to opportunities to increase the manufacturer’s supply chain in the UK.

      A so-called "hard" Brexit could present “nice opportunity to be able to source the UK from inside the UK", he said.

      “This is something that the UK government completely understands. If it is a hard Brexit, then the supplier base needs to be developed. It is important that we source parts from the UK, so that the cost structure will be more in pounds.”


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      I actually think they will be OK after 2020. The UK plant will offer something different. It's the jobs in the EU where the biggest cuts will come.
      Care to elaborate how you arrive at that?
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      Care to elaborate how you arrive at that?
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      Care to elaborate how you arrive at that?
      Look above your thread. That's why I think after 2020 things will be OK.
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      Another view on the Brexit angle.

      A “hard” Brexit would be good news for Vauxhall’s supply chain, the carmaker’s new owner has said as he sealed the long awaited £2bn purchase from *General Motors.

      Carlos Tavares, chairman of PSA whose existing brands include Citroen and Peugeot, said that were the UK to leave the European Union without any form of deal, it would lead to opportunities to increase the manufacturer’s supply chain in the UK.

      A so-called "hard" Brexit could present “nice opportunity to be able to source the UK from inside the UK", he said.

      “This is something that the UK government completely understands. If it is a hard Brexit, then the supplier base needs to be developed. It is important that we source parts from the UK, so that the cost structure will be more in pounds.”


      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...vauxhall-opel/
      This is all very well if we had the infrastructure, factories and skilled labour to be able to manufacture those parts sadly we don't that's why we currently get them from other countries
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      Another view on the Brexit angle.

      A “hard” Brexit would be good news for Vauxhall’s supply chain, the carmaker’s new owner has said as he sealed the long awaited £2bn purchase from *General Motors.

      Carlos Tavares, chairman of PSA whose existing brands include Citroen and Peugeot, said that were the UK to leave the European Union without any form of deal, it would lead to opportunities to increase the manufacturer’s supply chain in the UK.

      A so-called "hard" Brexit could present “nice opportunity to be able to source the UK from inside the UK", he said.

      “This is something that the UK government completely understands. If it is a hard Brexit, then the supplier base needs to be developed. It is important that we source parts from the UK, so that the cost structure will be more in pounds.”


      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...vauxhall-opel/
      A hard Brexit would see PSA wanting to source more components from the UK (for UK-built vehicles) in order to avoid the tariff barriers with the EU. The resultant vehicles would not be exported to the EU (currently the biggest market by far) but on the UK market. Vehicles for the EU would be made in the EU: there would be no obvious case for making them in the UK. It hasn't been mentioned but you could see some other PSA vehicles - Citroen and Peugeot mainly - being assembled in the UK, using common components. British-built vehicles might also be sold to any overseas markets with which the UK had a trade deal but the EU didn't, although there would be few of those in the long term. In summary, PSA would use the British plants as a trojan horse to access the UK market.

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