Trump, how long will he last?

nicko31 · Jan 12, 2017

beorhthelm said:
the thing is he's an outsider, not really a Republican, and they dont really like him very much.

Indeed, think impeachment at some point is not out of the question, so much potential conflict of interest. I'm betting on about 2 years when the Republicans realise Trump can never win a second term and will never step aside

beorhthelm · Jan 12, 2017

The Clamp said:
He's a narcissist so will have been operating very effectively when he was coming in and out of the public eye as he wanted. He will now be required to live life in the public eye a lot more, something he won't like. They do not like being exposed on other people's terms.

he showed this in the press yesterday, he was not at all comfortable and very aggressive. didnt have control of the agenda, wanted to talk about his "policies" and make a big point about his companies, but other issues were raised. he'll have to face this every week, and doesn't know how to bat away a question. yeah, i can see some sort of public tantrum in the first year. but he's got this "new yorker" attitude, he wont walk away, probably have dozens of press banned though.

Tyrone Biggums · Jan 12, 2017

beorhthelm said:
that "slim" majority was 3million voters, or 5% over Trump vote, for a derided and passionately disliked candidate. dont think thats a dead party.

LA and NY give a false impression that millions of voters all over the US prefer Clinton.

The two largest cities shouldn't get to rule over the rest of the nation just because of their population sizes.

Trump smashed Hilary at county levels.

Two Professors · Jan 12, 2017

beorhthelm said:
that "slim" majority was 3million voters, or 5% over Trump vote, for a derided and passionately disliked candidate. dont think thats a dead party.

Their share of Senate and Congress would tend to show your view as wrong.Likely to get smaller in 2017.

Gwylan · Jan 12, 2017

Two Professors said:
Might have won a slim majority of the total votes,but their representation is low,and getting lower

Quite wrong. The Democrats won the popular vote for the Senate too, They did lose the popular vote for the House of Representatives but they're not getting lower, their share went up 2.5% from the previous election while the Republicans' share went down 2.1%

And all of this was with a very, very unpopular Democratic candidate. A new candidate wouldn't have the baggage that HRC had. Of course, Trump may turn out to be an amazing success and win easily but that would be because of him, not because the DP is on a downward spiral.

And the Libertarian party? It got 3% of the popular vote, so it would have to substantially increase to do any serious damage. But, even if it did, it would eat into the Republican vote much, much more than it would eat into a Democratic one. A large Green vote would cause damage to the Democrats but there's zero chance of that happening

Dick Head · Jan 12, 2017

beorhthelm said:
the thing is he's an outsider, not really a Republican, and they dont really like him very much.

He 's a chameleon.

Two Professors · Jan 12, 2017

The Clamp said:
He's a narcissist so will have been operating very effectively when he was coming in and out of the public eye as he wanted. He will now be required to live life in the public eye a lot more, something he won't like. They do not like being exposed on other people's terms. I predict one of two things will happen, he will come too close to being exposed as a full on fantasist/ narcissist and step down to avoid the public humiliation and slip back into conducting his affairs in private.
Or he will suffer a narcissistic injury when somebody finds out what pushes his buttons, lash out and expose himself for what he is and then be impeached.
Either is possible but my money is on the former. He'll **** off before he is fully exposed.
For clarity, by narcissist I don't mean he fancies himself a bit, I mean he has full blown Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Very dangerous but very easy to control once you have figured them out.

Are you speaking from personal experience,from an expert point of view (psychiatric qualification),or as an internet bore?

Two Professors · Jan 12, 2017

Dick Head said:
He 's a chameleon.

But he's got Karma!

Geestar · Jan 12, 2017

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Two Professors · Jan 12, 2017

Gwylan said:
Quite wrong. The Democrats won the popular vote for the Senate too, They did lose the popular vote for the House of Representatives but they're not getting lower, their share went up 2.5% from the previous election while the Republicans' share went down 2.1%

And all of this was with a very, very unpopular Democratic candidate. A new candidate wouldn't have the baggage that HRC had. Of course, Trump may turn out to be an amazing success and win easily but that would be because of him, not because the DP is on a downward spiral.

And the Libertarian party? It got 3% of the popular vote, so it would have to substantially increase to do any serious damage. But, even if it did, it would eat into the Republican vote much, much more than it would eat into a Democratic one. A large Green vote would cause damage to the Democrats but there's zero chance of that happening

Well,I know maths isn't my strong suit,as the remainiacs love to remind me,but haven't the Republicans got larger numbers in both houses?

Gwylan · Jan 12, 2017

Two Professors said:
Well,I know maths isn't my strong suit,as the remainiacs love to remind me,but haven't the Republicans got larger numbers in both houses?

They have but you said that the Democratic share was getting lower - it's not, it's increasing. And they won more seats in the House too, up 6 seats from last election.

symyjym · Jan 12, 2017

I don't want to worry anyone but this is probably the start of a Trump Dynasty. Mwhahaha

The Clamp · Jan 12, 2017

Two Professors said:
Are you speaking from personal experience,from an expert point of view (psychiatric qualification),or as an internet bore?

It doesn't matter.
So far he's a textbook NPD. It will be interesting to see which box he ticks next.

The Clamp · Jan 12, 2017

beorhthelm said:
he showed this in the press yesterday, he was not at all comfortable and very aggressive. didnt have control of the agenda, wanted to talk about his "policies" and make a big point about his companies, but other issues were raised. he'll have to face this every week, and doesn't know how to bat away a question. yeah, i can see some sort of public tantrum in the first year. but he's got this "new yorker" attitude, he wont walk away, probably have dozens of press banned though.

Quite, he cannot bear to be scrutinised. They always run away in the end. But they always cause as much damage as they can before and during.

Two Professors · Jan 12, 2017

Gwylan said:
They have but you said that the Democratic share was getting lower - it's not, it's increasing. And they won more seats in the House too, up 6 seats from last election.

Well whoopee,excuse me if I'm under-whelmed.They are a minority party,full stop,no matter what spin you put on it.

Two Professors · Jan 12, 2017

The Clamp said:
It doesn't matter.
So far he's a textbook NPD. It will be interesting to see which box he ticks next.

Oh,just internet bore,then!

Pavilionaire · Jan 12, 2017

The Democrats hate him - Check
A big bunch of the Republicans hate him - Check
He's a security risk - Check
He's pissed off the FBI and CIA - Check.
Will be gunning for ISIS from Day 1 - Check.

Personally, I'll be surprised if he makes it through to 2018 without taking a bullet.

The Clamp · Jan 12, 2017

Two Professors said:
Oh,just internet bore,then!

Trumps next 12 months will be many things, boring will not be one of them. It will be predictable though. We can review in 12 months and see if one of the two results I predicted comes to pass.

The_Viper · Jan 12, 2017

Ivanka will be be the first woman president. Bank on that.

Bob'n'weave · Jan 12, 2017

cowburn86 said:
If he carries on with attacks on his own intelligence services I could see them leaking information that would leave Congress with no choice but to impeach him.

This just cements his place as 'man of the people'. Intelligence services, serve. Whom they serve is another thing. He's got this old racketeering thing lingering about which may result in impeachment but unless the spooks come up with something concrete and actionable then nothing will happen, so far its all smoke and no real fire. Leaking information that could result in a President being impeached is very dark. They either have it or they don't. Sniffing around for it smacks of 'constructive' and sitting on any impeachable intel is just as dodgy. Makes me wonder where the real risk lies.

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