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    It's not always. Most races aren't suitable for dutching for a start - there'd be a loss all round. Today there was only one that some would consider, for example, but ultimately I'd be surprised if anyone got on it.

    Typically the best races will be 8 or 9 horses (so 3 places are paid) and with a very short priced favourite. You then essentially analyse the odds to determine whether it is worthwhile or not, placing each way bets on every horse and, generally, covering win only bet(s) on the favourite(s). You will then have a degree of freedom as to how to adjust your potential returns - try to ensure a profit all round, although a small one if the favourite wins, or sacrifice that for a shot at greater returns if an outsider comes in.

    Then you place your bets. Where bookies are offering the same leading prices, you would probably try and place with those offering BOG or BOG+ or other offers such as the regular 365 4/1+ winner or faller insurance and take any bonuses that you happen upon.

    Another tactic I discovered completely by accident relates to very small 3 or 4 horse fields. Often you can back all horses for win only with different bookies for either break even or a very small loss. I do this sometimes just to be seen to be placing non-offer bets - "mug punting", but it can also pay dividends. Due to BOG I've backed a 3 horse field before, one horse drifted markedly but then won. I made about 300 on the race.
    Thanks. Sounds like a bit of time to invest.

    On the other side of the coin, I've just made a major blunder. I was using my 25 free bet from the Ladbrokes offer yesterday (money back as a free bet if Man U v Liverpool is a draw, which was itself a good result) and bet it on a race at Ayr at 11-1. I then laid the wrong horse, similar odds and that bloody one won. 225 error
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      Thanks. Sounds like a bit of time to invest.

      On the other side of the coin, I've just made a major blunder. I was using my 25 free bet from the Ladbrokes offer yesterday (money back as a free bet if Man U v Liverpool is a draw, which was itself a good result) and bet it on a race at Ayr at 11-1. I then laid the wrong horse, similar odds and that bloody one won. 225 error
      It happens.

      I was mug punting on the FA Cup, again just to be seen to be betting where there were no offers. I backed Chelsea, Peterborough and the draw all with different bookies for break even.

      Later that night I was checking my accounts and something didn't add up. Turns out I'd baked Liverpool by mistake, instead of Chelsea, but did back Peterborough and the Chelsea/Peterborough draw. It would have been OK if 1.14 shots Liverpool had beaten Plymouth but they didn't of course. Bye bye 250.
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      my 25 free bet from the Ladbrokes offer yesterday (money back as a free bet if Man U v Liverpool is a draw, which was itself a good result) (
      As as aside, as good as that Ladbrokes offer was in hindsight, I couldn't find anything with a suitably small quantifying loss so I wasn't involved in it. Best QL was about 4-5 from what I recall, on the HT/FT market.
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      As as aside, as good as that Ladbrokes offer was in hindsight, I couldn't find anything with a suitably small quantifying loss so I wasn't involved in it. Best QL was about 4-5 from what I recall, on the HT/FT market.
      I was on Man U Man U HT/FT. I laid it off on Smarkets. Don't know if you have used them, but the 2% commission and often different prices to Betfair can make all the difference. It cost me exactly 2 to lay this off and I should have made a 20 profit from the free bet, so 10-1 on the draw is clearly profitable.

      Smarkets great for the big games, but if you wanna lay off early in the 3pm at Plumpton tomorrow, forget it!
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      It happens.

      I was mug punting on the FA Cup, again just to be seen to be betting where there were no offers. I backed Chelsea, Peterborough and the draw all with different bookies for break even.

      Later that night I was checking my accounts and something didn't add up. Turns out I'd baked Liverpool by mistake, instead of Chelsea, but did back Peterborough and the Chelsea/Peterborough draw. It would have been OK if 1.14 shots Liverpool had beaten Plymouth but they didn't of course. Bye bye 250.
      Happens the other way round too! I was trying to empty my Betway account to reduce it to zero and boost my Betfair a/c. I had completed about half the wagering before I could withdraw and had 124 from Middlesborough stupidly drawing with Watford. Was watching the Chelsea game on TV and saw Betway were offering odds of 2.7 for Chelsea to win with them already 2-0 up! Bloody hell I thought, thats pretty much guaranteed so I lumped the whole 124 on at those odds. I then realised I had mistakenly lumped it all on a strange bet for Chelsea to effectively win the game from that point on i.e They had to score more goals than Leicester and win that portion of the match! I also realised I couldn't lay it off either or at least I couldn't figure out how to in such a short timeframe! I had to let it ride and fortunately Chelsea scored again and the bet won - A nice return of 334 and no lay bet to pay out plus the wagering was complete so I could withdraw every penny! Kerching and a nice curry and beers treat was had to celebrate!
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      Hi Bozza, tried to PM you but your inbox is full just making sure you can login fine after today's hiccup! If not please email us and we'll sort it. Nice results at the weekend by the way!
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      Hi Bozza, tried to PM you but your inbox is full just making sure you can login fine after today's hiccup! If not please email us and we'll sort it. Nice results at the weekend by the way!
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      Ben, in the tutorials, the first few videos are with three big bookies, what if you already have accounts with them? do you just do the same but with other bookies that have new customer offers and just work your way through them?
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      Ben, in the tutorials, the first few videos are with three big bookies, what if you already have accounts with them? do you just do the same but with other bookies that have new customer offers and just work your way through them?
      Each of the recommended NCO's have a written walk through but in general all have more or less the same process depending on what the offer is.
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      Ben, in the tutorials, the first few videos are with three big bookies, what if you already have accounts with them? do you just do the same but with other bookies that have new customer offers and just work your way through them?
      It's recommended to do the matched betting tutorial whether you have those 3 bookies already or not. We cover the basics and explain what we're trying to do in these 3 videos. They're not too long, so I'd recommend you give them a watch, and then proceed to the Sports list and pick the next one on the list you don't have. There's around 45 in total that can generate a risk-free profit, so there should be plenty to choose from. Each one has its own video tutorial showing how we make a profit, so all you have to do is repeat the same steps. But the matched betting tutorial will cover some of the basics you need to understand before you start.

      Let me know if you need any more help! Though if you email support@profitsquad.co.uk or use the forum, you will likely get a faster response than here as we don't monitor this page religiously (though we are trying!)

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