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    I will judge Trump in 12-16 months time. We need to give him a chance.
    Even if it transpires he paid to have Russia fix the vote?

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      Not been verified and so I do not wish to claim this is true, but been surfacing on the net and if it is the real deal its pretty damning at times. But as said before, he said a lot of shit during the election and was still voted in, so unlikely to mean anything.
      I agree in part but this is very different situation. Firstly he'll be a president and it will make a difference because it directly involves a leading geopolitical rival. Secondly it will build on the previous accusations and recordings of him, these will be given weight and nourish those respective storylines.

      Being a somewhat renegade outsider doesn't always map across to management (see Corbyn). I sense the same people who were cheering him on for 'just saying it how it is' will be damning him pretty soon. Though Trump won the US election it can be argued Hilary lost it (or largely the Democrats did). If they'd run a dog in a hat against him it would probably have won. Hilary was the perfect lame candidate, representing everything Trump could exploit and the electorate found unappealing.

      Added to this Trump isn't a Republican and has plenty of enemies in the party who would love to see him fall.
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      All over twitter #watersportsgate

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      If it's all out in the open then the russian leverage over Trump disappears.
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      I agree in part but this is very different situation. Firstly he'll be a president and it will make a difference because it directly involves a leading geopolitical rival. Secondly it will build on the previous accusations and recordings of him, these will be given weight and nourish those respective storylines.

      Being a somewhat renegade outsider doesn't always map across to management (see Corbyn). I sense the same people who were cheering him on for 'just saying it how it is' will be damning him pretty soon. Though Trump won the US election it can be argued Hilary lost it (or largely the Democrats did). If they'd run a dog in a hat against him it would probably have won. Hilary was the perfect lame candidate, representing everything Trump could exploit and the electorate found unappealing.

      Added to this Trump isn't a Republican and has plenty of enemies in the party who would love to see him fall.
      What sort of hat?
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      What sort of hat?
      A 'Make 'merica GREAT' baseball cap?
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      A 'Make 'merica GREAT' baseball cap?
      SOLD. Where do I put the X?
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      All over twitter #watersportsgate
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      A 'Make 'merica GREAT' baseball cap?
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