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      What does that prove? It's just a claim. Looking through the 4chan board last night there were lots of other claims they were getting excited about which don't actually appear anywhere in the full report as published on Buzzfeed, even though they were saying they did.

      Even if one 'rumour' has made it into the report, that doesn't discredit all of it. A lot of the information in there provides a plausible explanation for some of Trump's very odd behaviour regarding the Russians during the election campaign and since.

      In any case, the whole 'golden shower' business is a sideshow to the real issues. That a US President Elect has allegedly been exchanging information with Russia for several years and aiding Putin (for instance, over Ukraine).

      Most major news organisations have verified that the author of the report is generally regarded as credible and the BBC now has a second source saying the same - that generally he's to be trusted.

      The tone of those 4Chan forums tells anyone all they need to know about the mentality of the people involved. There's some bad journalism around these days and it's good if that's exposed, but it doesn't dismiss all the important work good journalists have done for hundreds of years in holding public figures to account. And that's needed now more than ever.

      The fact that many Trump supporters were back-slapping over his refusal to answer CNN's questions really shows them up. Some moaning about how rude the journalists are for even asking.

      If they can't understand that an elected figure has to be accountable to the electorate, then they really are idiots, clearly happy for Trump to act as a dictator.
      Agree with this.

      But then I sort of think, we live in a world where Donald Trump is about to be President so maybe we also live in a world where the intelligence agencies of the most powerful nation on Earth blindly believe information put into the world by a bunch of trolls on 4chan.
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      Quote Originally Posted by BBassic View Post
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      Agree with this.

      But then I sort of think, we live in a world where Donald Trump is about to be President so maybe we also live in a world where the intelligence agencies of the most powerful nation on Earth blindly believe information put into the world by a bunch of trolls on 4chan.
      There is the alternative view here in that the story (or at least that the intelligence services have been given this info from the fsb) is true and just that 4chan has had a true story posted on it. In the same way as the football rumours sites get some things right it's not beyond the wit of Man for that yo happen
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      Has anybody thought to inquire why this spy is an 'ex' intelligence officer?Normally a job for life.
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      Has anybody thought to inquire why this spy is an 'ex' intelligence officer?Normally a job for life.
      they leave to do more highly paid consultancy work. MI5/MI6 doesnt pay much more than regular government grades.
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      Has anybody thought to inquire why this spy is an 'ex' intelligence officer?Normally a job for life.
      Because he was fed up travelling to work on Southern Failway ?
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      they leave to do more highly paid consultancy work. MI5/MI6 doesnt pay much more than regular government grades.
      This. I have a regular source for intelligence matters who left the spooks to earn a lot more money
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      Because he was fed up travelling to work on Southern Failway ?
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      What does that prove? It's just a claim. Looking through the 4chan board last night there were lots of other claims they were getting excited about which don't actually appear anywhere in the full report as published on Buzzfeed, even though they were saying they did.

      Even if one 'rumour' has made it into the report, that doesn't discredit all of it. A lot of the information in there provides a plausible explanation for some of Trump's very odd behaviour regarding the Russians during the election campaign and since.

      In any case, the whole 'golden shower' business is a sideshow to the real issues. That a US President Elect has allegedly been exchanging information with Russia for several years and aiding Putin (for instance, over Ukraine).

      Most major news organisations have verified that the author of the report is generally regarded as credible and the BBC now has a second source saying the same - that generally he's to be trusted.

      The tone of those 4Chan forums tells anyone all they need to know about the mentality of the people involved. There's some bad journalism around these days and it's good if that's exposed, but it doesn't dismiss all the important work good journalists have done for hundreds of years in holding public figures to account. And that's needed now more than ever.

      The fact that many Trump supporters were back-slapping over his refusal to answer CNN's questions really shows them up. Some moaning about how rude the journalists are for even asking.

      If they can't understand that an elected figure has to be accountable to the electorate, then they really are idiots, clearly happy for Trump to act as a dictator.

      James Clapper the outgoing head of the CIA says there has not ben a leak from the CIA, . meaning any info the CIA as is different to the MSM, ie theMSM is spouting fake news. Clapper is a Democrat appointment so doubt he would cover for a mancunian candidte which is the level of this conspiracy stuff spouted by the BBC and the Cuck News Network. I am heARing it all orinated at 4chan, 9gag and Reddit posters.

      Anyway things will soon settle down and the truth, or lack of, will out.

      Now excuse me while i wonder off to 4chan and make up next weeks news for the MSM

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      James Clapper the outgoing head of the CIA says there has not ben a leak from the CIA, . meaning any info the CIA as is different to the MSM, ie theMSM is spouting fake news.
      firstly, he would say that wouldnt he, secondly thats an illogical conclusion when the dossier originates from another source the the CIA. they were concerned enough to brief President Elect on its existence and content (if only to hear his denial). apparently the document has been known of for months and various news agencies claim they turned down running stories based on it due to unknown authenticity, the briefing on it made it credible. lets not get fixated on one tabloid claim, its 35 pages and far more damning long term is the accusations Russia has been providing intelligence to Trump and team.
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