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    The Oscars 2017

    I am predicting a few surprises tomorrow notably Moonlight winning best film over La La Land, not for merit but due to pc reasons after the recent criticism over lack of awards to non whites. This is a fair criticism but this film is not worthy of the accolade as it is frankly imo very overrated. It is a decent story about isolation, identity and sexuality but incredibly slow and tedious. ALL the critics absolutely adore it though, lauding it as the best film for decades and incredibly moving. Kermode was almost out of control with all the praise he heaped on it. The acting was good but I just did not get it, it left me cold. Judging by recent comments a lot of people disagree with me

    La La Land is for me 10 x better and the worthy winner but in many ways I feel the best thing for this film now is to win very little at the Oscars, ironically the worst thing that happened for this film is in winning all 7 golden globes and numerous other awards as there has been a sustained and relentless backlash since then from a lot of critics and the public. Before the awards it got pretty much universal love and praise from everyone but in the last few weeks I have lost count of the amount of people who have said and written " it is a load of rubbish " It seems everyone who went to see the film recently was going into the cinema desperate to hate it and pick holes in it. If it wins 11 or 12 Oscars this will be very bad news for this magnificent film

    Of the 5 films I have seen nominated Arrival is my second best, it is a beautiful and poignant film for the times encouraging nations to work together to find a solution for a future event that threatens Mankind, that was the gift from the Aliens, Amy Adams should definitely have got a best actress nomination

    Third is Lion, a very moving and wonderful film

    Fourth is Hacksaw Ridge, another great film

    Fifth is Moonlight

    So I expect Moonlight to get a surprise win, all the momentum is behind this film, Ladbrokes at 11 to 2 is definitely worth a tenner, La La Land is 1 to 7

    Best actress surely has to be Emma Stone

    Best actor Casey Affleck

    Best supporting actor Ali for Moonlight

    Best supporting actress Viola Davis for fences

    Best Director Damien Chazelle for La La Land

    What are your views and what films have you seen from the shortlist ?

    Many thanks
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      Saw Patriots Day yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it. For whatever reason I knew little about the bombing other than the two explosions on the finish line, and don't recall what happened afterwards with the bombers themselves. This film cleared that all up. I'm sure some bits were changed for dramatic purposes but nevertheless from what my missus said last night when I was talking about the film, seems quite close to actual events. At the end some of the real victims give their thoughts which is quite moving.

      Very much recommended.
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      Saw Patriots Day yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it. For whatever reason I knew little about the bombing other than the two explosions on the finish line, and don't recall what happened afterwards with the bombers themselves. This film cleared that all up. I'm sure some bits were changed for dramatic purposes but nevertheless from what my missus said last night when I was talking about the film, seems quite close to actual events. At the end some of the real victims give their thoughts which is quite moving.

      Very much recommended.
      Thanks, I will give it a look
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      I think anyone reading LA LA Land is living in LA LA Land! It was just about watchable and the ending was quite strange.

      Hacksaw Ridge is fantastic.

      Patriots Day I thought was slow and I wasn't keen on the filming up until the bombing but then it was very good onwards.

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      I think anyone reading LA LA Land is living in LA LA Land! It was just about watchable and the ending was quite strange.

      Hacksaw Ridge is fantastic.

      Patriots Day I thought was slow and I wasn't keen on the filming up until the bombing but then it was very good onwards.

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      The end was magnificent, what could have been, poignant and brave ending, each to their own, clearly a lot of people do not like La La Land, just think Moonlight is massively overrated, might have to give it a second view as it totally left me unmoved
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      IMDB is a very good guide of a film, there are anomaly's but it is accurate after tens or hundreds of thousands of votes and it is presently rating

      La La Land 8.5
      Hacksaw Ridge 8.3
      Arrival 8.1
      Lion 8.0
      Moonlight 7.9
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      The end was magnificent, what could have been, poignant and brave ending, each to their own, clearly a lot of people do not like La La Land, just think Moonlight is massively overrated, might have to give it a second view as it totally left me unmoved
      I turned moonlight off, bloody awful.

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      IMDB is a very good guide of a film, there are anomaly's but it is accurate after tens or hundreds of thousands of votes and it is presently rating

      La La Land 8.5
      Hacksaw Ridge 8.3
      Arrival 8.1
      Lion 8.0
      Moonlight 7.9
      I always go by IMDB, anything rated over 6 is worth a go, imho.

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      I think La La Land will for the most part walk it. Hollywood loves Hollywood, so a film about itself mostly bereft of pastiche should come out on top. It was well made and enjoyable and a good film tainted with sorrow, so it wouldn't be despairing in the slightest if it won. Moonlight had much more to it and it was a coming of age drama so rich with emotion that I'd be happy to see it awarded. But Manchester-by-the-Sea, mirroring my general gloominess, slightly topped the lot and I'd like to see a few prizes handed out in that direction.

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      I wouldn't personally have Arrival anywhere near best film. La La Land and Moonlight for me. Manchester by the Sea, whilst exceptionally acted and very real, just didn't touch the emotional heart strings enough for me. Hell of High Water is a hidden gem, albeit not quite as good as the previously two mentioned films for me. I'm yet to see Lion or Fences (although probably will tomorrow) so I can't comment.

      For best female, it has to be Portman for me. Even though the film wasn't really my cup of tea, she was exceptional, although I expect Stone to walk it.

      I'm also a tad surprised to see Ali the favourite for the male supporting actor. Whilst he's a good actor, I simply don't think his role was meaty enough to justify an oscar nomination. I'd personally prefer either Hedges or Bridges to win it, but I think the desire for a black person to win something will shine through in the voting in the supporting categories.

      In terms of best male actor, it would be Affleck for me.

      That's my two cents.

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