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      This will always be the case while their are some people that use race as an issue. Historical issues with Police racism and what is going on in America is always going to influence things like this, some will feel the gun was planted, some will just use it to strengthen their agenda. Others will just get carried away in the mindless violence

      The reporting of it on the radio is what I found most Bizarre. The constant headline of 'A man has been shot in what Police are calling a planned operation' did make it sounds like some sort of assassination and made me chuckle as I am sure they would have preferred the wording to not be

      Do I know much about the guy? No. Do I know anything about the shooting? Not Really. However I did find the media around it interesting, as others have said you will usually get the stories about a guy that is a brilliant person and neighbour and how it is a massive tragedy. However this time people have said he wasn't great and another talks about how he was shot at a couple of years ago.
      You find the wording " a planned operation " bizarre ? Really ? All it means is they were acting on intelligence rather than reacting to a call from the public , and Your statement that what is happening in America Should have an effect on public opinion here is what I find most bizarre.
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      If I shout at someone during an argument I imagine they would shout back, If I punch someone I would expect to be punched back, If I took someone on in a knife fight I would expect to be stabbed, If I bring a gun to the party well there is a fair assumption that I might get shot once it all goes down.

      This could be the Mark Duggan shooting all over again and lets not forget what an innocent lovely chap he was, a proper upstanding non drug dealing non gun carrying good all round bloke.
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      Mikeyjh wow, u are na´ve and innocent, kind off sweet really, if we went talking about a grownup subject. Try exploring the world see how other countries do things, or if not possible because u r still a young teen, try getting out of shoreham for the day. This country is one of the most liberal in the world which is great, however there always has to be a line which u will no doubt learn as u get older (i.e. if people want to play gansters they can get hurt).
      Genuine question, instead of attempting to undermine your opponents intelligence with not so subtle attacks on his age, or at least your perception of it, why not try and engage the man in actual debate?
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      You find the wording " a planned operation " bizarre ? Really ? All it means is they were acting on intelligence rather than reacting to a call from the public , and Your statement that what is happening in America Should have an effect on public opinion here is what I find most bizarre.
      Have to agree. Cannot understand why someone jumps to the conclusion that 'a planned operation' equates to an assassination! I suspect there are plenty of planned operations involving the police firearms that don't result in someone getting killed. In 12 months up to March 2016 police weapons were only discharged on 7 occasions yet they were deployed on over 12,000 occasions. Jumping to conclusions about a brief news report is exactly what contributes to further problems like the riots after Duggan was shot

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      Genuine question, instead of attempting to undermine your opponents intelligence with not so subtle attacks on his age, or at least your perception of it, why not try and engage the man in actual debate?
      Do you mean like this!!!

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      You've got to love a Daily Mail reader....
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      No law abiding citizen has a reason to carry a gun other than for game shooting or similar in which case it should be carried in a suitable secure case to avoid any confusion. Armed response officers are usually placed in a position whereby it is them or us and I know which action I would take in such a situation.
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      Do you mean like this!!!



      with all its attached connotations!!!
      Fair enough, I hadn't seen that.

      Carry on.
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      with all its attached connotations!!!
      Oh, that was aimed at me - Ages since I was accused of being a sweet young teen, that's kind of weird you know.

      Okay, so if we're have a mature discussion, my issue with your post is as follows:- You've taken an established fact in that he was acquitted of a serious charge (it was attempted murder, not murder) and casually implied that basically he was guilty. In fact, the judge in the case referred to the key witness as being 'one of the least compelling witnesses that he had seen in 35 years', the case was therefore thrown out.

      Then rest of your post is full of hyperbole based on supposition using as a source that I made an educated guess to be our old friend the Daily Mail. You've then concluded that acquittal of crime + allegations of drug dealing + having expensive cars + having a DIY home security setup = Death sentence.

      You may, or may not, be a Daily Mail reader (I think you are), but your post is a classic DM reader summary.

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