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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fifth Column View Post
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    There is no such thing as being 'found innocent' in the British criminal justice system, you get found 'not guilty'. It is a very very big difference, it doesn't mean you didn't do it
    , it means there isn't generally enough evidence to prove you did.
    Boolox is there a big difference. Again, you want to find a stick to beat this bloke, fine but think about the wider picture, anybody found not guilty is, in your eyes, basically guilty but we just can't prove it? There is a fine, technical difference that in most people's eyes is non existent.

    I admire your faith in the police and the CPS but sometimes it will be wildly misplaced.

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    Boolox is there a big difference. Again, you want to find a stick to beat this bloke, fine but think about the wider picture, anybody found not guilty is, in your eyes, basically guilty but we just can't prove it? There is a fine, technical difference that in most people's eyes is non existent.

    I admire your faith in the police and the CPS but sometimes it will be wildly misplaced.
    So John Terry is innocent of racially abusing anton ferdinand , yes ?

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    NSC at its very best ~ a post based on assumption on a matter the poster hasn't got a clue about!!

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    You do have to wonder sometimes though don't you? 'Suspicion of possession of a gun with intent to cause fear', WTF? Why not just 'possession of an illegal firearm'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wellquickwoody View Post
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    You do have to wonder sometimes though don't you? 'Suspicion of possession of a gun with intent to cause fear', WTF? Why not just 'possession of an illegal firearm'?
    It's a preliminary charge to be able to keep the suspects in custody. When the evidence is gathered, the charge can be amended.
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    I admire your faith in the police and the CPS but sometimes it will be wildly misplaced.
    Don't know about the CPS but after 17 years working with various TFU's etc. I know about Armed Police and how they have to approach these situations. Do you have a personal issue with the Police by any chance?

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    [QUOTE=Rogero;7732443]He was a bad man and he lived with the gun and died with the gun.[/QUOTE



    That sums it up quite nicely but it wont stop people looking for hidden agendas or cucks virtual signalling in response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakarta View Post
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    Don't know about the CPS but after 17 years working with various TFU's etc. I know about Armed Police and how they have to approach these situations. Do you have a personal issue with the Police by any chance?
    No, but neither do I have complete faith in them. They make mistakes, pursue the wrong people - The point I was making that there is not this big big difference between not guilty and innocent. To suggest otherwise is to imply that innocent people are never charged and taken to court. We all know that is completely untrue.

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    To be clear, I never said that if you don't have sympathy for this bloke then you have the moral standards of a drug dealer or a gun carrying criminal. I was talking about summary executions on the basis of some kind of "bad-man-o-meter". Sympathy is not the measure here. I would hardly say I have sympathy for him.

    I care about us living in a law-abiding society and having a police force with standards and ethics. That's actually what protects us from dangerous criminals.

    If anyone thinks our country would be safer and more decent if only the police would go around shooting all the "wrong-uns", they should probably think again.
    Who decided that it was a summary execution?

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