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    Quote Originally Posted by Albumen View Post
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    Unfortunately it's now happening. The far right fascist (I don't buy the 'alt' disguise) movement now has power, and it could easily gain more momentum here if Farage gets more influence.

    Obviously the left are worried, so I'm asking you UKIP and conservative voters on this board bothered by this?
    I would be bothered if I thought you were not over reacting. As I think you, and some others, are having a bit of a paddy about nothing except not getting your own way for once, then no, I am not bothered.
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      You should check out all the destruction and violence caused by the racist group black lives matter. It's far scarier than the guys you linked.
      Feel free to start your own thread rather than derail this one.

      You would concede that, removing this from whataboutery for one second, it is a little concerning to see people 'sieg Trumping' unchallenged in a supposedly semi-respectable policy forum.

      I'll await your latest 'whatabout' with quiet resignation.
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      Feel free to start your own thread rather than derail this one.

      You would concede that to remove this from whataboutery for one second, it is a little concerning to see people 'sieg Trumping' unchallenged in a supposedly semi-respectable policy forum.

      I'll await your latest 'whatabout' with quiet resignation.
      I see two hands raised and a bunch of people clapping. Personally i'm not triggered by a minuscule amount of people making a dick gesture.
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      Did you listen to the speech?
      Online radicalization is now as much about extremist right wing ideology as it is about extremist Islam
      And the two share a lot of similarities.
      Yes this is a very worrying trend as is the rise of radical Islam. It will be challenged and it will be defeated, but not if everyone shrugs and say 'that Corbyn is just as bad'
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      Quote Originally Posted by Tyrone Biggums View Post
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      I see two hands raised and a bunch of people clapping. Personally i'm not triggered by a minuscule amount of people making a dick gesture.
      Personally I find it abhorrent to see one person making that salute, it being representative of a period in history which saw the attempted state sponsored, systematic eradication of an entire group of people.

      It's disgusting to see people doing it.
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      It worries me greatly that along with some distgurbing far right groups emerging, Trump has been filling the corridors of power with people even more disturbingly right wing than himself, such as Jeff Sessions, Steve Bannon, MIchael Flynn, Bizarro Ben Carson etc. Alongside, Trump's hardly emphatic exhortation to far right folks not to carry out any violence and the fact that he doesn't seem to go to any great efforts to distance himself from practically anybody who can form one extra rung on the ladder up to Trump as Ultimate World Leader (in his head, at least).

      See the left can 'whatabout' too
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      Check out these alt-right salutes at the National Policy Institute

      http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...ch-npi/508379/
      That is frightening. How long before they will be lynching people because of the colour of their skin.

      And anybody who thinks that might be an exaggeration should look at the news tonight on our own television, which will no doubt be reporting the murder, for political reasons, of Jo Cox, MP.
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      In the English speaking western world its the left who have shown themselves to be the more violent and destructive of the two extremes so less worried about the right than the left.

      Although when you include Islam in there as a far right ideology it gets murkier.
      You may be right, the far left may be currently more violent, but what do you consider more dangerous long term; the insidious return of Nationalism to mainstream politics whipped up by a popular media, or the overt violent behaviour of a few of the far left?
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      You may be right, the far left may be currently more violent, but what do you consider more dangerous long term; the insidious return of Nationalism to mainstream politics whipped up by a popular media, or the overt violent behaviour of a few of the far left?
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