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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?

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GrizzlingGammon

GrizzlingGammon

Well-known member
Dec 15, 2018
1,802
This is very weird. All the gammons that wanted a no deal are now gloating.

We have a deal that will hopefully minimise disruption. Let's be honest, no one knows how good or bad it is.

Let’s see what the chocolate starfish council make of it.
 




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amexer

Well-known member
Aug 8, 2011
6,217
Government after referendum had no option but to leave.It was vital we did a deal but with 20 plus European countries not happy that we were leaving I never thought we would get an agreement so well done Boris for persevering. Would have been easy to take easy way out and blame it on EU
 






GT49er

GT49er

Well-known member
Feb 1, 2009
46,757
Gloucester
Lincoln Imp said:
So you are in favour of the ancient principle that parliamentarians should act according to their considered judgment as to what is in the interests of the nation and its people, irrespective of what the people appeared to be clamouring for?



(Clearly, if those parliamentarians had been formally elected to Westminster on the basis that they DID support a particular view and then reneged on their commitment once voted in, different considerations might apply.)
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As happened with Brexit. As a supporter of Parliamentary democracy you should be well satisfied.
 






sparkie

sparkie

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
12,513
Hove
GrizzlingGammon said:
This is very weird. All the gammons that wanted a no deal are now gloating.

We have a deal that will hopefully minimise disruption. Let's be honest, no one knows how good or bad it is.

Let’s see what the chocolate starfish council make of it.
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I'm more worried about the Walloon parish council 'doing a Canada' on this deal and vetoing it. What will they have to be bunged ?
 














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Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
GT49er said:
As happened with Brexit. As a supporter of Parliamentary democracy you should be well satisfied.
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I am indeed a supporter of parliamentary democracy. Can I take it that you are too, and supported our parliamentarians' right to follow their consciences during the May government?
 


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NooBHA

Well-known member
Jan 13, 2015
8,584
Lower West Stander said:
Yes agree - it will be really interesting.

Jimmy Krankie has consistently used this and blame the English for everything as her get out of jail free card. With Covid going through the roof up there and no prospect of a referendum for a while, Scotland are stuck with this for now. And it might just be a whole lot better for them then the picture she has been painting.

If Labour get their act together as well up there, I think she may have problems convincing the Scottish public. It'll be back to Rob Roy and the Act of Union.
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You mean a small Country looking to Govern itself and not be bound by the Legislation of it's larger neighbors .

Brexit perhaps ?

Brexit won't determine how Scotland vote in a Referendum. Well not totally anyhow.

That's a smokescreen that the SNP drag up in order to get another shot at Independence.

Many Scots are still very shallow. Catholics will still predominantly vote for Independence and Prodestants will still predominantly vote to remain in the Union.

Those two effectively usually cancel each other out.

It's the balance remaining. Maybe as little as 20% of the remaining Electorate which will decide the balancing vote either way.

Scotland are not quite as bigoted against immigrants as they are in England. Not because they are better people. Simply because there isn't as big an immigration influx as there is in England.

Any Devolution vote would be very tight and just like Brexit was. The margin would be tight again this time.

However, what Scotland has got now is insight on how devisive leaving the EU was and they will more than likely vote narrowly for independence. Just so that they can get back into the EU. And that will happen because more younger voters will go out and make sure ther vote counts.

England will be a stand alone Nation within the next 10 years which is sad because the people were lied to about what Brexit truly entails.
 


Randy McNob

Randy McNob

Now go home and get your f#cking Shinebox
Jun 13, 2020
4,464
Remember we had to endure a decade of austerity after the 2008 crash, when the deficit was around 40-60% of GDP, it's currently above 100% and Brexit will have a negative effect on our GDP. I can understand the tabloid-esque triumphalism but from a purely economic perspective it's complete lunacy, our economy will contract about 15% over 10 years.

Question is will we suffer more austerity or tax rises?
 








Pretty pink fairy

Pretty pink fairy

Banned
Jan 30, 2008
31,981
NooBHA said:
You mean a small Country looking to Govern itself and not be bound by the Legislation of it's larger neighbors .

Brexit perhaps ?

Brexit won't determine how Scotland vote in a Referendum. Well not totally anyhow.

That's a smokescreen that the SNP drag up in order to get another shot at Independence.

Many Scots are still very shallow. Catholics will still predominantly vote for Independence and Prodestants will still predominantly vote to remain in the Union.

Those two effectively usually cancel each other out.

It's the balance remaining. Maybe as little as 20% of the remaining Electorate which will decide the balancing vote either way.

Scotland are not quite as bigoted against immigrants as they are in England. Not because they are better people. Simply because there isn't as big an immigration influx as there is in England.

Any Devolution vote would be very tight and just like Brexit was. The margin would be tight again this time.

However, what Scotland has got now is insight on how devisive leaving the EU was and they will more than likely vote narrowly for independence. Just so that they can get back into the EU. And that will happen because more younger voters will go out and make sure ther vote counts.

England will be a stand alone Nation within the next 10 years which is sad because the people were lied to about what Brexit truly entails.
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Ground control to major Tom :mad:
Regards
DF
 


ManOfSussex

ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,748
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
nicko31 said:
So in the end Johnson gave away our fish for the next 5 years and then gave away 75% after that.
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Ten years after voting to take it all back because it's ours, Johnny Foreigner will still be able to fish in our waters. Strange victory.
 




rogersix

rogersix

Well-known member
Jan 18, 2014
7,904
Randy McNob said:
Remember we had to endure a decade of austerity after the 2008 crash, when the deficit was around 40-60% of GDP, it's currently above 100% and Brexit will have a negative effect on our GDP. I can understand the tabloid-esque triumphalism but from a purely economic perspective it's complete lunacy, our economy will contract about 15% over 10 years.

Question is will we suffer more austerity or tax rises?
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both
 


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Neville's Breakfast

Well-known member
May 1, 2016
13,423
Oxton, Birkenhead
Lincoln Imp said:
I am indeed a supporter of parliamentary democracy. Can I take it that you are too, and supported our parliamentarians' right to follow their consciences during the May government?
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They had the right but that came with consequences at the ballot box. They made a strategic choice that ultimately brought the opposite of what they desired. Just an observation.
 


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