pastafarian
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Oh ok, so you cant provide the links to posts in threads on NSC where alleged individuals have supported national socialist content.
if you can.......why not just do it instead of pretending you can
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- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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Oh ok, so you cant provide the links to posts in threads on NSC where alleged individuals have supported national socialist content.
if you can.......why not just do it instead of pretending you can
Pretty pink fairy
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- Jan 30, 2008
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He is a very rude person and I will send him a PM telling him not to do it again, particularly not in response to that paragon of virtue, Pasta - OK
Talking of deflection, what do you think about Johnson now reversing his lie from the election campaign that there would be no new procedures on his newly introduced Irish Sea Border and the impact of that on businesses both sides of this new border ? (Since I know that this was the 'good deal' that you were waiting throughout TM's premiership for, I'm sure you would have considered this possibility).
You see, this is the problem when you assume. As no trade deals have yet taken place and no agreements struck I'm intrigued where you get your info about these 'new procedures' ? Maybe you could provide some links to the agreed procedures ? And I mean from credible sources not Meg. I ask as I work for a Canadian company and only last week I was involved in a meeting that had the CEO and a number of VPs in discussing what affect Brexit would have on our business given the UK arm exports to France and Germany. My company hired expert consultants for 18 months and guess what ? Their answer was "currently there iis expected to be no affect on your export of either services or goods. Strangely French orders have increased 3 fold in the last four months - that that includes long term service contracts lasting 5 years. Clearly the French don't hold the same opinion ( sorry guess work ) as you do.
Pretty pink fairy
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- Jan 30, 2008
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You'd be better off sloping off this thread along with a couple more of your ilk on here,you'e as useful as a chocolate tea pot , no hard feelings eh
Regards
DF
He is a very rude person and I will send him a PM telling him not to do it again, particularly not in response to that paragon of virtue, Pasta - OK
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Talking of deflection, what do you think about Johnson now reversing his lie from the election campaign that there would be no new procedures on his newly introduced Irish Sea Border and the impact of that on businesses both sides of this new border ? (Since I know that this was the 'good deal' that you were waiting throughout TM's premiership for, I'm sure you would have considered this possibility).
If you're going to quote me it might be worth doing so in context. Those quotes were in response to Plooks - who has constantly been offensive and an idiot - so much so he got banned. Use your power of the search function you like so much to see what I said to Lincoln Imp about using fire against fire.
pastafarian
Well-known member
He is a very rude person and I will send him a PM telling him not to do it again, particularly not in response to that paragon of virtue, Pasta - OK
Talking of deflection, what do you think about Johnson now reversing his lie from the election campaign that there would be no new procedures on his newly introduced Irish Sea Border and the impact of that on businesses both sides of this new border ? (Since I know that this was the 'good deal' that you were waiting throughout TM's premiership for, I'm sure you would have considered this possibility).
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I dont want to speak for all Leavers but i think we would like to know whats wrong with your crystal ball. You clearly said only two ways of leaving the EU ....on a no deal basis or the softest of soft withdrawal. No deal is obviously not happening for the withdrawal on friday, so when do you expect the softest of soft withdrawals to happen before friday?
Hi De Flated
I think you'd be 'better off sloping off' learning to proofread. Your spelling and grammar are criminally weak..... as bad as your cognitive ability
- Jul 10, 2003
- 25,866
Here's Johnson saying there will be no new checks and procedures for NI
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-50344110
Here's the announcement of the new checks and procedures for NI, together with the 557 page document explaining how to fill out the forms
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/24/revealed-complex-post-brexit-checks-for-northern-irish-traders
And, when I last looked, France and Germany weren't in Northern Ireland so that maybe the reason they aren't effected
(Although I am very impressed that you met with a CEO and some VPs, so all that typing wasn't a complete waste
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pastafarian
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Knock yourself out. Provide the links to posts on NSC supporting National Socialism. Why havnt you done this already showing proof people are posting pro nazi material on the brexit thread?
- Nov 11, 2009
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You're arguing about an 11 month interim agreement. I'm not a victim of "this coming undone".
For years I was a victim of a cabal of unelected and unaccountable beurocrats, many of whom had been kicked out by their own countries voters, who went way way beyond any democratic remit that was given for a common market and the obvious benefits that brings. Who ignored 4 countries electorates who voted the "wrong way" Who thought, that by lies, slow erosion of sovereignty and obfuscation they were going to pull off their one nation United States of Europe without any democratic mandate whatsoever.
No really, we're not victims anymore. This is democracy at work.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
There are no unelected or unaccountable bureaucrats in the EU. There lots of them in Westminster, including more civil servants than in the whole of the 27 countries in the EU put together.
If you were a victim, it was of the lies drip fed to you.
nicko31
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I heard Paul Staines has a couple of positions vacant, you should apply...
pastafarian
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- Jul 10, 2003
- 25,866
Are you saying that 'no deal' is now impossible ? Maybe you should ask one of the people who 'knew what they were voting for' all along what it is we are going to be leaving with, because you know as well as I do that Johnson doesn't have a clue what it will be
Things are changing daily and will continue over the next 11 months (If you believe Johnson). Just like a couple of weeks ago we were leaving with no checks and procedures in the non-existent Irish Sea border and now, magically, we have a lot of new onerous checks on the new Irish Sea Border. I don't know what a true Unionist would make of that because [MENTION=33253]JC Footy Genius[/MENTION] is so excited about his Big Ben Bong that I don't think he's noticed.
- Nov 11, 2009
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MEPs who are voted for by us have no power to propose or change legislation. The commission nor the council of Europe, the decision makers...... have representatives selected by, able to be removed by or accountable to European voters. They are political appointees.
As EU is over-arching national law. The simple principle that voters should be able to hire and fire their law makers is circumvented. And they have no say in the federal direction the EU is moving.
There is simply no need of a federal superstate. The common market was the right solution.
I'm not even going to bother with the French model protectionist system it has become. The CAP, How key UK growth sectors are stifled by its red tape. The EU cannot function properly as 27 individual member states, it could only badly work by going ever deeper and becoming federal, which it intends, but dare not reveal. It's been lying for decades.
It's done we're out, and history will be the judge, but for all the despetate naysayers, another global economic downturn like 2007 is a far bigger risk to the UKs economy than leaving the EU.
Luckily we're not hamstrung by the one size fits all ECB like many of the stagnant euro economies.
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pastafarian
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Are you saying that 'no deal' is now impossible ? Maybe you should ask one of the people who 'knew what they were voting for' all along what it is we are going to be leaving with, because you know as well as I do that Johnson doesn't have a clue what it will be
Things are changing daily and will continue over the next 11 months (If you believe Johnson). Just like a couple of weeks ago we were leaving with no checks and procedures in the non-existent Irish Sea border and now, magically, we have a lot of new onerous checks on the new Irish Sea Border. I don't know what a true Unionist would make of that because [MENTION=33253]JC Footy Genius[/MENTION] is so excited about his Big Ben Bong that I don't think he's noticed.
You said we would leave the EU according to the exit date on a no deal basis or a softest of soft exits.
There are only hours left.....when is your crystal ball prediction of a softest of soft exits going to happen.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 35,313
who are the people running the European Commission and the staff in the Directorates then?
- Jul 10, 2003
- 25,866
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but Saturday morning, after the withdrawal agreement is enacted, we will still be paying into the EU, operating under their rules, regulations and laws and using all of their trading terms.
But enjoy your Big Ben Bong, 50p piece and tea towel. At least Johnson didn't lie to you about those
Oh ........... well 2 out of 3 isn't bad
No trade deal can still happen. In fact this will work brilliantly for me as I now have good rights in Germany enshrined in international law due to the withdrawal agreement. And a crushing no deal at the end of the year will result in loads of extra business in my industry. Admittedly it’s a pisser for people in need of new drugs, and the smaller companies, but an absolute god send for my livelihood.... and hopefully my hourly rate.
Let’s get Brexit done!
- Nov 11, 2009
- 11,366
No idea who Paul Staines is, so please feel free