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If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?

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Pretty pink fairy

Pretty pink fairy

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Jan 30, 2008
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Raleigh Chopper said:
I'm afraid there are millions of them up and down the country, it's really scary that they just can't see the obvious, I wonder what is going on in their heads.
So entrenched in their misguided beliefs that they refuse to listen just in case they may here the truth.
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I'm still waiting to hear some from you , REAP WHAT YOU SOW
regards
DF
 




Pretty pink fairy

Pretty pink fairy

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Jan 30, 2008
31,981
Pavilionaire said:
Chance missed 1. Boris - a Tory - led Leave to victory and was the obvious choice to take over from Cameron and deliver Brexit. He bottled it.

Chance missed 2. Theresa May - a Tory - has a Parliamentary majority to get Brexit done but opts to have a GE, blowing that majority.

Chance missed 3. The ERG and Boris - Tories - vote against Theresa May's Deal twice.

Chance missed 4. Boris - the Tory - finally wins a Parliamentary vote on his Brexit Deal, then chooses to go for a GE, thereby dissolving Parliament so his vote falls by the wayside.

And you pin no Brexit on the opposition?! Wake up, man!
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but the opposition wanted more time I mean how longs a piece of string ? ,Boris done the right thing now the people can clear out the dead wood :wink:
regards
DF
 






Thunder Bolt

Thunder Bolt

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Aug 18, 2009
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Beside the seaside, beside the sea
A call went out to thousands in Doncaster, to Sir Nigel Gresley Square to protest about not leaving the EU on 31st October.

Nobody, not one person, turned up.
 




















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Lever

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Feb 6, 2019
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Thunder Bolt said:
A call went out to thousands in Doncaster, to Sir Nigel Gresley Square to protest about not leaving the EU on 31st October.

Nobody, not one person, turned up.
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I think that sends a powerful message about where we are as a nation now; likewise the huge number of 'People's Vote' marchers emphasises a shift in voter attitude.....
 
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The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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Baldseagull said:
He was too young to vote, and seems to not want to have a vote on Brexit. If he is happy for a decision to be made for him by the people of 2016, I don't see why his opinion on how or if it is done is relevant in any way.
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I really wanted someone to slap him. “Calm down man”!

What an unpleasant, angry face that child has.
 




vegster

vegster

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May 5, 2008
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Baldseagull said:
He was too young to vote, and seems to not want to have a vote on Brexit. If he is happy for a decision to be made for him by the people of 2016, I don't see why his opinion on how or if it is done is relevant in any way.
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He's quite perky isn't he ? I didn't see the episode but I hope the Lab/Libs on the panel respectfully pointed out the suicidal method of Brexit that was angled for by Boris and his cronies and which had to be avoided at all costs. Is he aware that Jeremy Corbyn a, is not in government so can't be defeated and b, is a socialist, not a Marxist ?
 


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Hampster Gull

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vegster said:
He's quite perky isn't he ? I didn't see the episode but I hope the Lab/Libs on the panel respectfully pointed out the suicidal method of Brexit that was angled for by Boris and his cronies and which had to be avoided at all costs. Is he aware that Jeremy Corbyn a, is not in government so can't be defeated and b, is a socialist, not a Marxist ?
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Many of those around him are. From the FT

“It’s hard to imagine what Friedrich Engels would make of John McDonnell’s frugal dining habits. Engels, co-founder of Marxism, spent his 70th birthday sharing 16 bottles of champagne and “twelve dozen oysters” — and boasted of his “acknowledged gift for mixing a lobster salad”.

By contrast, McDonnell — perhaps the most famous living Marxist in Britain — is strikingly abstemious.”

Loads of other stuff out there, including direct quotes.
 


Thunder Bolt

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Aug 18, 2009
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JC Footy Genius said:


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Cyril the Question Time plant, who comes from an affluent family, and loves fox hunting.
He was dressed for QT with a special haircut, to make him look like an 'ordinary teen'.

“Cyril” real name Layton J Smith of the Birmingham Young Conservatives. BBC Question Time and it’s usual pro-Tory propaganda plants
 
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Jolly Red Giant

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Jul 11, 2015
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Hampster Gull said:
Many of those around him are. From the FT

“It’s hard to imagine what Friedrich Engels would make of John McDonnell’s frugal dining habits. Engels, co-founder of Marxism, spent his 70th birthday sharing 16 bottles of champagne and “twelve dozen oysters” — and boasted of his “acknowledged gift for mixing a lobster salad”.

By contrast, McDonnell — perhaps the most famous living Marxist in Britain — is strikingly abstemious.”

Loads of other stuff out there, including direct quotes.
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Let's be clear about this - and it is important that proper political distinctions are made - neither Jeremy Corbyn nor John McDonnell are Marxists. McDonnell has never been a Marxist and to the best of my knowledge neither has Corbyn - neither have ever been members of a Marxist party. In classical political terms both would best be described as left social democrats.

Right-wingers throw words like Marxist around as if it is some sort of insult - when most clearly have no idea what being a Marxist actually means.

Now - Corbyn and McDonnell deserve support and an opportunity to implement the left / socialist policies that they are campaigning on. The Tories and the Blairites have destroyed Britain since the time of Thatcher. If Corbyn gets elected the Blairites in his own party will attempt to prevent the implementation of the policies he promoted and it will be up to working class people to take to the streets - and socialists within the trade union movement to force their leaderships - to defend the policies being promoted by Corbyn and McDonnell.

As for Engels and Marx - both were notorious for getting drunk and going around smashing up shop windows - social activities do not determine political outlook.
 




Two Professors

Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
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Multicultural Brum
Jolly Red Giant said:
Let's be clear about this - and it is important that proper political distinctions are made - neither Jeremy Corbyn nor John McDonnell are Marxists. McDonnell has never been a Marxist and to the best of my knowledge neither has Corbyn - neither have ever been members of a Marxist party. In classical political terms both would best be described as left social democrats.

Right-wingers throw words like Marxist around as if it is some sort of insult - when most clearly have no idea what being a Marxist actually means.

Now - Corbyn and McDonnell deserve support and an opportunity to implement the left / socialist policies that they are campaigning on. The Tories and the Blairites have destroyed Britain since the time of Thatcher. If Corbyn gets elected the Blairites in his own party will attempt to prevent the implementation of the policies he promoted and it will be up to working class people to take to the streets - and socialists within the trade union movement to force their leaderships - to defend the policies being promoted by Corbyn and McDonnell.

As for Engels and Marx - both were notorious for getting drunk and going around smashing up shop windows - social activities do not determine political outlook.
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:mad:

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Which Marx did he write this about? Harpo,Zeppo,Groucho?

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Guinness Boy

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Jolly Red Giant said:
Let's be clear about this - and it is important that proper political distinctions are made - neither Jeremy Corbyn nor John McDonnell are Marxists. McDonnell has never been a Marxist and to the best of my knowledge neither has Corbyn - neither have ever been members of a Marxist party. In classical political terms both would best be described as left social democrats.

Right-wingers throw words like Marxist around as if it is some sort of insult - when most clearly have no idea what being a Marxist actually means.

Now - Corbyn and McDonnell deserve support and an opportunity to implement the left / socialist policies that they are campaigning on. The Tories and the Blairites have destroyed Britain since the time of Thatcher. If Corbyn gets elected the Blairites in his own party will attempt to prevent the implementation of the policies he promoted and it will be up to working class people to take to the streets - and socialists within the trade union movement to force their leaderships - to defend the policies being promoted by Corbyn and McDonnell.

As for Engels and Marx - both were notorious for getting drunk and going around smashing up shop windows - social activities do not determine political outlook.
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Frankly, it’s all got f*** all to do with you.


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