[Politics] Brexit

beorhthelm said:

pretty good summary. its a shame we cant vote them all out and have a fresh set.

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BensGrandad said:

Oliver Letwing is a disgrace only interested in self preservation.

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BensGrandad said:

We can at a GE

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clapham_gull said:

Supporting a political party like a football team. Bad idea...

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BensGrandad said:

I would like to be as certain of 3 pts today as Corbyn getting well beat in a GE.

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Yoda said:

The unfortunate thing with Brexit, is that there are a lot of Tory MP's putting their party first to keep them in power because if they don't deliver Brexit they know they will lose a GE. They are putting this before they try to represent the view of the people and in doing so looking for a harder Brexit than needed, which in turn will have a negative impact on the best interests of the Country.

An MP's first priority is Country, then the People they represent, then the Party. We have a Government acting in reverse.

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Weststander said:

The Tories don’t appear scared of a general election in the slightest. Corbyn is in a hellish place in the polls, due amongst other things, to three plus years of pretending that he’s all things to all people on the EU. Turns out the British aren’t as dim as some would portray.

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clapham_gull said:

Boris is now in talks with the DUP with cheque book open apparently.

DUP abstain ?

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abc said:

I can assure you I don't and they are not.

Parliament has two key responsibilities: 1. To represent the views of the people 2. To represent the best interests of the country.

Both the Conservatives and Labour fought an election promising to respect the referendum. Parliament voted to do the same. Yet 3 years down the road they still haven't (I say this as an ardent remainer). A deal to leave was agreed with the EU but Parliament (including Tories that wanted to leave!) rejected it. The Gov called for an election to let the people decide: All the opposition parties refused to go to the people. Labour argued that his was to stop no deal. We now have another deal and the chance to avoid no deal. Labour have rejected this again and will vote against the deal. They have also failed to table a vote of no confidence and thus an election.

The country needs to move forward and Parliament are determined to play continual and damaging political power games that are crippling the country.

How can you possibly, possibly say this is 'Parliamentarians doing their job'?!

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clapham_gull said:

Boris is now in talks with the DUP with cheque book open apparently.

DUP abstain ?

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Kinky Gerbils said:

If that’s the case he must be worried about numbers.

If the DUP don’t have the union, what is the point of them?

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Thunder Bolt said:

The referendum was respected when Article 50 was triggered by Theresa May.

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BensGrandad said:

Untrue it is only respected when we actually leave. If asked to make a cake it isnt completed until it is ready to eat not at the mixing stage at the beginning of the process.

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BensGrandad said:

Untrue it is only respected when we actually leave. If asked to make a cake it isnt completed until it is ready to eat not at the mixing stage at the beginning of the process.

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Thunder Bolt said:

You abandon the cake when you crack the eggs to find they've gone rotten. You don't carry on regardless.

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clapham_gull said:

I meant to say it was the Letwin amendment. He is probably trying to persuade them to abstain on the basis it's irrelevant to them because it delays a deal they don't want anyway.

The Letwin numbers are looking shaky.

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BensGrandad said:

You start the mix again or replace the eggs which Boris has done with the agreement. Scrapped the original and tweeked it to make it better.

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