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If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?

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Sussex Nomad

Well-known member
Aug 26, 2010
18,185
EP
Lever said:
... and around we go. Even if all Leavers agreed it would only be the will of 52% of the voters in 2016 and not the cliched 'will of the people'; but not all Leavers want the same outcome, further dividing the 'winning lobby'.
Some Leave advocates will not accept no deal, others will accept nothing else.
There is no majority for anything. You view is as valid as anyone else's .... there just aren't enough people who agree with you to put it into practice - any more than there are enough people who agree with me that the leave options are all really bad and we need to forget it.......
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Lever, you write like a thoroughly decent person and I respect you, however, we were given a choice, we took the choice and the consequences thereafter are totally down to the decision we made three years ago, not for anything else.
 






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Lever

Well-known member
Feb 6, 2019
5,368
Sussex Nomad said:
Lever, you write like a thoroughly decent person and I respect you, however, we were given a choice, we took the choice and the consequences thereafter are totally down to the decision we made three years ago, not for anything else.
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Thank you for politeness Sussex Nomad.
The consequences are indeed down to that decision. But what exactly (in practice) was that decision...... who knows?
 


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Sussex Nomad

Well-known member
Aug 26, 2010
18,185
EP
Lever said:
Thank you for politeness Sussex Nomad.
The consequences are indeed down to that decision. But what exactly (in practice) was that decision...... who knows?
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The decision HAS TO BE that of the referendum and nothing else.
 








Motogull

Motogull

Todd Warrior
Sep 16, 2005
9,834
May I interrupt with a question?

On the basis that a law designed to stop a no-deal Brexit on 31 October has been passed, if there is neither an acceptable deal nor a request for more time, could the EU say something like 'we can't permit a no-deal as that would be an invalid default position due to illegality'?
 


WATFORD zero

WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
25,766
Lever said:
Thank you for politeness Sussex Nomad.
The consequences are indeed down to that decision. But what exactly (in practice) was that decision...... who knows?
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Well, as you have clearly pointed out, there is no way of actually knowing what the will of the people was.

I'm aware of Leave posters on NSC who definitely wanted a deal and didn't want no deal, posters who wanted no deal but definitely didn't want a deal, Ones who weren't bothered either way and ones who had preferences based on the details of what the deal was and what preparation had been done for 'no deal'.

But we definitely have to implement the results of the referendum and what they voted for :facepalm:

If only there was a practical way to find out exactly what the will of the people is :whistle:
 
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Sussex Nomad

Well-known member
Aug 26, 2010
18,185
EP
Motogull said:
May I interrupt with a question?

On the basis that a law designed to stop a no-deal Brexit on 31 October has been passed, if there is neither an acceptable deal nor a request for more time, could the EU say something like 'we can't permit a no-deal as that would be an invalid default position due to illegality'?
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I would love the EU to tell us to do one. All my worlds would come together in one motion. But they can't leave us, we are to important to them.
 


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Lever

Well-known member
Feb 6, 2019
5,368
Sussex Nomad said:
The decision HAS TO BE that of the referendum and nothing else.
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With respect, I will close this particular debate by saying the referendum edict was vague but by definition its execution will be precise and will not represent the will of the majority............ and the nation will remain divided.
 


Pretty pink fairy

Pretty pink fairy

Banned
Jan 30, 2008
31,981
Lever said:
You seem to be caught up in your own verbosity again Dim Fellow. Reflect a bit longer before posting and you will be more coherent.... you can do it if you try!
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You've got some front calling people dim after those two pathetic characters performance last night ,utter disgrace both of them
regards
DF
 




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Sussex Nomad

Well-known member
Aug 26, 2010
18,185
EP
Lever said:
With respect, I will close this particular debate by saying the referendum edict was vague but by definition its execution will be precise and will not represent the will of the majority............ and the nation will remain divided.
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I think you will find you are wrong and if we had another vote we would still vote out, but I am not an advocate of re-running a referendum purely to satisfy the minority.
 




beorhthelm

beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,286
Motogull said:
May I interrupt with a question?

On the basis that a law designed to stop a no-deal Brexit on 31 October has been passed, if there is neither an acceptable deal nor a request for more time, could the EU say something like 'we can't permit a no-deal as that would be an invalid default position due to illegality'?
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the default position, if EU do nothing is we legally leave the EU. there's no mechanism for them to unilaterally extend, and without action our side it would be pointless.
 




GrizzlingGammon

GrizzlingGammon

Well-known member
Dec 15, 2018
1,789
birthofanorange said:
Pointless to erm...point that out, as he just doesn't care that other Leave voters may have voted with that in mind.
It's a crusade to him. :)
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It has been pointed out by others and myself many times. But leavers views on what they voted for, such as immigration, once the major issue, have changed according to what can actually be delivered in reality. Many on here suddenly started to claim that immigration wasn't an issue for them.
 


WATFORD zero

WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
25,766
Sussex Nomad said:
The decision HAS TO BE that of the referendum and nothing else.
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It's quite simple

I'm aware of Leave posters on NSC who definitely wanted a deal and didn't want no deal, posters who wanted no deal but definitely didn't want a deal, Ones who weren't bothered either way and ones who had preferences based on the details of what the deal was and what preparation had been done for 'no deal'.

So how do we implement the results of the referendum and do what the majority voted for ?
 




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Sussex Nomad

Well-known member
Aug 26, 2010
18,185
EP
Sussex Nomad said:
I think you will find you are wrong and if we had another vote we would still vote out, but I am not an advocate of re-running a referendum purely to satisfy the minority.
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Corbyn is running scared of an Election, something he has called for for three years and when given the opportunity he blocks it. Spineless arse.
 




clapham_gull

clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,296
I'm beginning to think that we will be out soon with the original NI only backstop deal with the Tories dropping the Unionists.

Many in Labour will probably vote for it.

Just goes to show how utterly utterly rubbish the current Tory party are.

It was there all along and they've just spent the last few years arguing with each other whilst blaming everyone else.
 




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