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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,309
You are a lucky cucky the dancing queen......
Nope, me neither.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,309
Didn't mention yours at all, defensive petal. You claimed remainers and "liberal lefties" (your opposition) were "buggered" and therefore clearly exposes why you voted to leave.
Your definition of progression is to bring the others (that you perceive as more entitled) down to the level of those who aren't.
You have:
1) Miscalculated how the left voting urban elite will financially prosper under Boris irrespective of how many teeth are gnashed.
No-one gets taxed for reading the Guardian and Boris will release some funds so they can buy an online subscription !! Free trade trebles all round !!!!
2) Defined yourself clearly as a socialist, which I disagree with but respect.
alternatively...
3) Really didn't think it through.
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Grombleton
Surrounded by <div>s
- Dec 31, 2011
- 7,356
I can only beat what's in front of me.
Garry Nelson's teacher
Well-known member
Emily Maitlis clearly had a catch-out Boris agenda (fine by me) but he simply ignored her. Of course you can't draw too many conclusions form a highly artificial and contrived situation such as this, but having watched last night I'm no less horrified by the thought of him becoming PM.
Yes
Our future representative to the World believes.....
....Scottish people should not become Prime Minister
black children are 'piccaninnies with watermelon smiles'
Orientals ... have larger brains and higher IQ scores. Blacks are at the other pole.
He has been sacked both as politician and journalist for lying - two roles where probity and high standards should be a pre requisite.
He is a racist, prevaricator, serial adulterer - disloyal both in public and private life.
The list goes on, so I would say you are entitled to be horrified at the thought of him becoming PM.
Sadly with the collective denial we are experiencing at all levels of society, I feel sure he will prevail in this contest. All we can do is hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
The most ardent leavers that I personally know are strangely, both living on disablement benefits, live in social housing, neither have worked for at the very least twenty years, one in fact to my knowledge has never worked, unless you classify " tobacco importing " from, strangely, the EU? Who he constantly derides and vociferously (on Internet forums) criticises, ( which may be because, during one of his many tobacco runs he had been discovered by French customs officials attempting to import an " 8 bar " of illegal substance ! " first time honest guv " and received a custodial sentence in a French hostelry ! Both claim to be Labour supporters and strenuously deny being duped when I point out they are arguing for a Tory Brexit which in my opinion has been a top Tory wish since we joined in 74. The only other leaver who I have discussed this process with is retired, and for the last year at least, he wishes the whole debacle had never happened after realising the folly of the whole Tory instigated mess. He like myself ( I retire in the next year, with my final salary pension, (payable very shortly) though have to wait until next May for my state pension, thanks governments), both own our own homes so may be shielded from the main excesses of your Brexit.
My belief is this whole process is a disaster for our people, our country, our union, our future, our younger people's future, our politics and especially our economy. I've no real axe to grind as my future is fairly settled after working since leaving school at 15 and planning and saving for my retirement and see absolutely no benefit in leaving the EU, please if you know of any benefit for leaving, any at all, anything that will benefit this nation of ours at all, anything, enlighten me. I will be happy, nay, delighted to be educated in this regard. I thank you in anticipation.
The Tories managed to infect the whole country with their EU disease. We are now unreconcilably split, just like they have been for years. I’ve lost a lot of belief in my country over this whole debacle. I never realised just how many nasty people lived here until Brexit. Very depressing. Labour are at their weakest in a generation and are unable to fight the weakest Tory party in a generation; it’s all so sad.
But it's a very crude measure. Firstly, the figure lost to the economy is an estimate ( more a guess ). It's based on where the economy MIGHT of been if Brexit hadn't happened. Then it's divided by the number of UK households. That's it ..... no further inteligence put around it. I'll agree it suits an agenda but it is highly misleading.
- Jul 10, 2003
- 25,807
I agree it's simplistic, but misleading ?
Maybe you could find an alternative source that shows how much better off we are as a result of voting to leave.
I'm suggesting it's misleading because even if we take the guessed total figure on the hit to the economy as correct not every pound directly affects household income. For example it might mean 10000 less police officers - that doesn't have a direct affect on household income. Less investment is space research .... would affect those employed in the industry but certainly not every household. The figure of £600 is nothing more than a catchy misleading headline ..... something many remainers accused, and in some cases correctly, the leave camp of using.
I've never said we'd be better off financially by leaving.
- Jul 10, 2003
- 25,807
I agreed it was simplistic, and it was made clear it was an average, which in itself is simplistic.
But as you have stated, we are simply debating about how much worse off we are
Pretty pink fairy
Banned
- Jan 30, 2008
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I agreed it was simplistic, and it was made clear it was an average, which in itself is simplistic.
But as you have stated, we are simply debating about how much worse off we are
How long are we going to be worse off for, I thought that bit of tat you stare into tells you everything
regards
DR
Pretty pink fairy
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- Jan 30, 2008
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Grombleton
Surrounded by <div>s
- Dec 31, 2011
- 7,356
Congratulations! Yet another post where you've made absolutely no flipping sense. Go turn on the TV to channel 202.
Just for a really short moment in time try to imagine that the "piece of tat" is somewhat accurate, that the economy takes a massive hit, that a recession ensues, that job losses are rife, that tax income is reduced significantly, who then is going to pay the benefits? Who then is going to pay the pensions? Who then is going to pay for our health services ? Who then is going to pay for our schools, police service, armed forces, ? The list is endless and for what? Blue passports, a few less EU immigrants? Are you sure?
I agreed it was simplistic, and it was made clear it was an average, which in itself is simplistic.
But as you have stated, we are simply debating about how much worse off we are
You asked me why I thought it was misleading ..... which I answered.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Just like we did on March 29th. Oh wait.
Just like we did on April 12th Oh wait.
Just like we did on May 22nd. Oh wait.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
This subsequent recession and job losses and Armageddon in general.....any idea which areas will be hit hardest job-wise? Manufacturing, banking, clerical, baking?
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Stephen Lloyd is the MP for Eastbourne. Yesterday in the HOC, he asked Matt Hancock, the Health Secretary, why disabled children & adults, have now been limited to three incontinence pads a day. If a disabled person is to be kept warm and dry, it now costs that family an extra £85 a month, with no extra benefits. This is what is happening to public services, day in and day out, because so much money is being wasted on these ridiculous project. This is the reality and nitty gritty of this government.