Of course you're allowed to say it, but sweeping generalisations do make you look a bit silly.
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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Of course you're allowed to say it, but sweeping generalisations do make you look a bit silly.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
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Obviously, one poll putting the official party of entitled undemocratic loons first outways such trifling democratic events like referendums or General elections and their supporters will be getting terribly excited but I would umbly suggest they shouldn't be preparing for government just yet. If a series of polls show similar results where Labours support has collapsed then I would expect Corbyn's inner circle would finally move to a clear, unequivocal second referendum position hoping to kill off the Lib Dem resurgence. This move is unlikely to go down well in many marginal midlands seats and northern Brexit voting constituencies. Overall I think both the Brexit party and Lib Dem poll numbers are unlikely to hold up at a general election but both could do enough damage to the big two to be decisive.
It may well come down to most remainers voting to put Corbyn and his motley, far left, anti-semitic crew so feared by business in 10 Downing street to get a second referendum ....
Ok here we go again, for those who weren't paying attention last time
Brexit party = Leave (as it says on tin)
UKIP = Leave (as it says on tin)
Conservative Vote = Mostly Leave
Labour Vote = Unknown if remain or leave
Lib/Dem = Remain, although some of their voters would have voted for them irrespective of Leave/Remain issue out of party loyalty
Green = Mostly remain, but again some of their voters voted primarily for green issues
Change Uk = Remain
Conclusion = Voting indicates narrow Leave majority.
Every leave protagonist should have that list beside their beds, what a comforting security blanket to ponder before sleep!
Speculation.... unknown numbers which could be discovered by another referendum or General Election, now we are more informed about the implications of the choices.
The top three on the list are not going to change.
Your speculation.... not fact...
Here's a contrasting speculation..... Remain vote numbers are growing and would outnumber Leave votes in another referendum.
No they wouldn't. Wishful thinking I'm afraid
nwgull
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And this is backed strongly up by every opinion poll from the last 6-12 months.
symyjym
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Trump publicly endorses Boris for the job. I don't know if this will be helpful to him or the kiss of death?
Will Trump get his fat cuddly poodle?
Will Trump get his fat cuddly poodle?
Mmh... maybe
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.... Yes, wishful speculation indeed - as is your Brexit tinted analysis.
...makes you wonder who wouldn't want to know for sure with a General Election or another Referendum....
Oh, wait though.... I think I can speculate on that as well.
Well, you're not going to get either. But, I'll make a prediction.... Don't hold me to it.
1. We will leave the EU on the 31 October with a deal so no revoking of article 50
2. Brexit will then be put to bed and when an election is called the Tories will romp home with a landslide
3. As a consequence Jezza resigns and the Lib Dems will go back to getting between 8-15 seats with the leader threatening to eat their own hat.
What say you Leves, what's your honest opinion about the outcome, not what you want, but what you think might happen.
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https://www.euronews.com/2019/05/29...th-north-macedonia-and-albania-says-mogherini
EU membership talks should start with North Macedonia and Albania, says Mogherini
EU membership negotiations should begin with Albania and North Macedonia, according to the bloc's foreign policy chief.
Federica Mogherini, speaking at a press conference on the bloc's enlargement, said talks should start as soon as possible.
She said both countries merit having their progress acknowledged and the failure to do so would hit the EU's credibility.
The last member state to join the union was Croatia in 2013.
The recommendation comes as Albania has been gripped by violent protests in recent weeks. Demonstrators in the capital Tirana attacking the gates of prime minister Edi Rama’s office earlier this month.
Protesters are calling for Rama to resign over allegations over his alleged involvement in corruption and electoral fraud and want a snap election to be held.
The EU, along with the US government, have called Rama's government legitimate and have called for opposition parties to return to the Albanian parliament ahead of the local elections on June 30.
Albania was officially given candidate status to join the EU in June 2014. It has transitioned to a market economy and begun to open up to the whole since the fall of communism in the 1990s and the death of its strongman ruler Enver Hoxha in 1985.
Protesters have been seen waving EU flags and have used the popular slogan from the 1990s: "We want a European Albania".
North Macedonia, meanwhile, has resolved a long-running name dispute with neighbours Greece, which has opened the door to EU and NATO membership.
EU membership talks should start with North Macedonia and Albania, says Mogherini
EU membership negotiations should begin with Albania and North Macedonia, according to the bloc's foreign policy chief.
Federica Mogherini, speaking at a press conference on the bloc's enlargement, said talks should start as soon as possible.
She said both countries merit having their progress acknowledged and the failure to do so would hit the EU's credibility.
The last member state to join the union was Croatia in 2013.
The recommendation comes as Albania has been gripped by violent protests in recent weeks. Demonstrators in the capital Tirana attacking the gates of prime minister Edi Rama’s office earlier this month.
Protesters are calling for Rama to resign over allegations over his alleged involvement in corruption and electoral fraud and want a snap election to be held.
The EU, along with the US government, have called Rama's government legitimate and have called for opposition parties to return to the Albanian parliament ahead of the local elections on June 30.
Albania was officially given candidate status to join the EU in June 2014. It has transitioned to a market economy and begun to open up to the whole since the fall of communism in the 1990s and the death of its strongman ruler Enver Hoxha in 1985.
Protesters have been seen waving EU flags and have used the popular slogan from the 1990s: "We want a European Albania".
North Macedonia, meanwhile, has resolved a long-running name dispute with neighbours Greece, which has opened the door to EU and NATO membership.
I'm bored, why don't we all have a sweepstake, all put a quid or a fiver in and the NSCer closest to the outcome scoops the lot. Get someone neutral to decide winner
so 1 the brexit position
2 the outcome of the general election
3 party leader resignations and lib dems share of the seats
who's in
so 1 the brexit position
2 the outcome of the general election
3 party leader resignations and lib dems share of the seats
who's in
There you go... speculating and predicting again!
Seems rather like a 'blue sky' Brexit outcome as far as you are concerned.
My honest opinion (not the same as a speculation) is that the 2016 Referendum was a mistake- badly handled, full of lies and exaggerations and lacking in accessible information.
Empty threats and promises (on both sides of the argument) together with some extremely dodgy practice led to a distorted outcome and a Leave majority.
Now that we are better informed, albeit much angrier, my opinion is that we need either to revoke article 50 at least until we have sorted out some of our differences and come to some kind of consensus... or we let voters decide, preferably in a general election.
In my opinion, predictions and gambling on the possible outcomes are pointless and probably counter productive.
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You’ve been caught in a lie. Silly responses like that won’t help you.
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