[Politics] Brexit

WATFORD zero · Apr 2, 2019

sully said:
As the option was leave or stay, I very much doubt that anyone who got off their backside and voted leave would expect that leave would include remaining in a customs union and with free movement. Surely that’s about the only two things that we were told we’d be rid of by voting to “take back control”. What I quoted was saying that what we’ll end up with is “as good as staying”, whilst actually leaving!

Obviously, nobody who voted to remain wanted to remain but not be able to influence what might change in the future.

This is what I imagine those who stayed away from the referendum, shrugged and said “I’m not that bothered either way” would be happy with, but not those who voted.

I could of course be wrong. I’m just offering my opinion. I just think that if we’re going to leave, we should do it properly, not by tying ourselves to the club still. It just seems pointless.

I'm sorry but it is just your opinion. I'm out in a restaurant at the moment, so can't really respond but most of the major 'Brexiteers' said, at some point, during the campaign that they weren't trying to leave the customs union or single market.

Sorry, because your reply deserves a longer response, so maybe later tonight, or more likely tomorrow :thumbsup:

sully · Apr 2, 2019

WATFORD zero said:
I'm sorry but it is just your opinion. I'm out in a restaurant at the moment, so can't really respond but most of the major 'Brexiteers said during the campaign that they weren't trying to leave the customs union or single market.

Sorry, because your reply deserves a longer response, so maybe later tonight, or more likely tomorrow

Fair enough if they did. I don’t remember that being said at all.

Perhaps we will get the leave that was voted for after all. I just haven’t had this line spun to me by anyone I know who voted to leave.

Enjoy your meal and put your phone away!

Herr Tubthumper · Apr 2, 2019

Gwylan said:
It's really bad timing on May's part

Just another example of her misjudgment.

Stat Brother · Apr 2, 2019

Dear God.

3 years in, absolutely no progress and now is the time for cross party support.

A totally shambolic clusterf**k of epic proportions.

KZNSeagull · Apr 2, 2019

Thunder Bolt said:
Lord Adonis, Labour peer agrees with her.

[tweet]1113136542854381575[/tweet]

So Labour wants the PM to reach out. She reaches out. Labour say it's a trick.

Triffic.

pb21 · Apr 2, 2019

Herr Tubthumper said:
Just another example of her misjudgment.

Disagree this time next week she will be able to say:

Despite the Tories seeking cross party support from Labour during this time of national crisis Labour have refused to work in a constructive manner putting the country before party. As such we will now have to seek a long extension and take part in EU elections. Like the global economic crisis we are still suffering from, this is entirely Labour's fault and reiterates why they are unfit for government.

pb21 · Apr 2, 2019

KZNSeagull said:
So Labour wants the PM to reach out. She reaches out. Labour say it's a trick.

Triffic.

Labour wanted her to 'reach out' two years ago, not two weeks after the original leaving date!

Bold Seagull · Apr 2, 2019

KZNSeagull said:
So Labour wants the PM to reach out. She reaches out. Labour say it's a trick.

Triffic.

You're generally a more intelligent poster than that.

pb21 · Apr 2, 2019

Triggaaar · Apr 2, 2019

Bold Seagull said:
You're generally a more intelligent poster than that.

So you disagree with him. You could just say you disagree, rather than try and mock his intelligence with a post that could be aimed right back at yours.

Dick Head · Apr 2, 2019

KZNSeagull said:
Politicians Love Island you mean?

Aarrgh!

Two Professors · Apr 2, 2019

Looks like we might have to elect Euro MP's so they can get part pensions out of the EU swill bin.Perhaps all the flouncers are aiming for this as they're out of a job.I already know who I will vote for.The choice for Remainers is going to be much more difficult-finding someone you can trust!

Bold Seagull · Apr 2, 2019

Triggaaar said:
So you disagree with him. You could just say you disagree, rather than try and mock his intelligence with a post that could be aimed right back at yours.

Or if you read it again, without your sensitivity glasses on, I've actually complemented [MENTION=9822]KZNSeagull[/MENTION] and only criticised that one post.

Had KZN had a quick look at any news feed, they would have found:

Corbyn has told the Press Association:
"We will meet the prime minister. We recognise that she has made a move, I recognise my responsibility to represent the people that supported Labour in the last election and the people who didn’t support Labour but nevertheless want certainty and security for their own future and that’s the basis on which we will meet her and we will have those discussions."

I thought you looked out for misinformation?

Dick Head · Apr 2, 2019

Raleigh Chopper said:
The Moggster is not happy.
Not happy at all.

Dick Head · Apr 2, 2019

KZNSeagull said:
So Labour wants the PM to reach out. She reaches out. Labour say it's a trick.

Triffic.

Corbyn's said he is very happy to meet her.

Blue Valkyrie · Apr 2, 2019

The Rivet said:
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”

Caldwell

I like that.

Putin's box of 'useful tools' in the UK spring immediately to mind.

Thunder Bolt · Apr 2, 2019

WATFORD zero said:
I'm sorry but it is just your opinion. I'm out in a restaurant at the moment, so can't really respond but most of the major 'Brexiteers' said, at some point, during the campaign that they weren't trying to leave the customs union or single market.

Sorry, because your reply deserves a longer response, so maybe later tonight, or more likely tomorrow

Here's one.

[tweet]1110114700396761088[/tweet]

@ledbydonkeys have got loads of these quotes from Brexiters on Twitter.

Blue Valkyrie · Apr 2, 2019

WATFORD zero said:
I'm sorry but it is just your opinion. I'm out in a restaurant at the moment, so can't really respond but most of the major 'Brexiteers' said, at some point, during the campaign that they weren't trying to leave the customs union or single market.

Sorry, because your reply deserves a longer response, so maybe later tonight, or more likely tomorrow [emoji106]

Thunder Bolt said:
Here's one.

[tweet]1110114700396761088[/tweet]

@ledbydonkeys have got loads of these quotes from Brexiters on Twitter.

This is a handy useful reference.

https://twitter.com/pgmatthew/status/1054609746563682304?s=19

Lever · Apr 2, 2019

Quote Originally Posted by The Rivet View Post
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”

Caldwell

Blue Valkyrie said:
I like that.

Putin's box of 'useful tools' in the UK spring immediately to mind.

... and like pitching the people against parliament and watching as the goons threaten elected mps with violence?

The Rivet · Apr 2, 2019

Lever said:
Quote Originally Posted by The Rivet View Post
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”

Caldwell

... and like pitching the people against parliament and watching as the goons threaten elected mps with violence?

Actions v reactions I guess.

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