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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
49,989
Goldstone
Backstabbing ***** like BJ and MG at the helm. Please, please exile these ****wits into a political wilderness so dense that they never re-emerge. If we have to have a Tory Government (because many say JC is un-electable) then please let a Ruth Davidson or Rory Stewart be at the forefront.
It's difficult to comprehend how crap the Tories have been, and Labour would walk an election if they put anyone half decent forward. Tory incompetence seems mild when measures against the Labour party's choice of leader.
 


portlock seagull

Why? Why us?
Jul 28, 2003
16,979
Labour have been so impossibly bad, todays Telegraph suggests the shadow front bench is replaced by Strictly’s professional dancers :lolol:
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
69,880
Banksy called it right...

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nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,522
Gods country fortnightly
Dominic Raab got mentioned on here yesterday as a contender for that and there's a good summary of him in Phillip Collins piece in today's Times:

The candidate for the determinedly drunk is Dominic Raab who, incredibly, declared that the best plan for the government was to demand legally binding changes to the withdrawal agreement and, if they are not forthcoming, leave the EU without a deal. He must have been asleep for the fortnight in which it became obvious that neither of these two options was feasible. Mr Raab is the last-ditch candidate who loves Britain so much he thinks we could be Singapore.

Though Mr Raab does an impeccable job of diminishing himself I am loath to join in because he is my preferred candidate to win the leadership. Speaking as someone keen to see a new party emerge in British politics, Mr Raab is, without question, my candidate. He is exactly the sort of cat-that-got-the-cream character who would repel floating voters. Non-Tories will really dislike Mr Raab who will rapidly restore the Tories to the status of the nasty party.

He is the kind of Tory who thinks people eat at food banks because they like the menu. There is a set of Tory MPs ready to walk if his unforgiving politics were allowed to take over.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tories-could-become-the-nasty-party-again-lqdj8n55p

Well summed up, showed his true colours in the last election

Caring for disabled is just a childish wish list

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDmYThUAzL4
 




A1X

Well-known member
NSC Patreon
Sep 1, 2017
17,517
Deepest, darkest Sussex
I don't disagree, and have already said I do not support 'no deal', but people are not ''likely to die'' if it happened.

So much alarmist nonsense, do people actually think we only have enough medicines to last till next month, or that we would be unable to obtain it? Wow.

Many of those in the relevant industries are very much concerned about exactly that happening. And those are the people who fully understand the process. I'm inclined to believe them.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
49,989
Goldstone
Many of those in the relevant industries are very much concerned about exactly that happening. And those are the people who fully understand the process. I'm inclined to believe them.
But they aren't exactly reporting without bias are they. There's what's likely to happen in the event of No Deal, and what's the worst case scenario. I suspect the talk of deaths is what could happen, rather than what's likely to happen.
 


D

Deleted member 22389

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Well I see that you're back again for a third time.



Didn't even manage 2 weeks this time :shrug:

Amyway, if these 'wankers' hadn't halted Brexit which did you want, Customs Union or NI/Ireland border ?

I posted this in the other thread before it got merged.

https://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?343854-Happy-still-in-the-EU-Day-everyone
 




WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patreon
Jul 10, 2003
25,662
But they aren't exactly reporting without bias are they. There's what's likely to happen in the event of No Deal, and what's the worst case scenario. I suspect the talk of deaths is what could happen, rather than what's likely to happen.

But I think that the Trade, Logistics, Customs and Medical Supply specialists are all saying that none of them know what would happen but all have extremely serious concerns on ('no deal'). I would imagine, therefor that if the experts don't know, the line between could and likely is, at best, extremely blurred.

Although, it appears, thank God, that even Westminster aren't that stupid.
 


portlock seagull

Why? Why us?
Jul 28, 2003
16,979
So you say/do something stupid.



It is explained to you in simple terms that you have said/done something stupid.



It finally dawns on you that you have said/done something stupid.

But it's all someone else's fault. I can't help feeling we have been here before ???




*edit* No wonder I thought I'd been here before, here's a post from a few months back

And this is why some violence is inevitable. Because too many Remainers continue to argue their point in such condescendingly pious ways, on such a highly emotive and divisive matter as Brexit. The country is a powder keg with bright sparks like you running around with matches. On today, of all days, it’s unbelievable how foolish many people can be, as if it was ever so simple? And you have the nerve to call me stupid with your demonstrable Master’s in Idiocy laid bare for everyone to see! Suggest you take some quick classes in diplomacy or better still keep your mouth shut in public. Couple hundred years ago I’m fairly certain someone would have run a sword through you, the country would have descend into civil war. Fortunately we’ve moved on but I wonder how many people will be killed in the next few months in Brexit related violence.
 






portlock seagull

Why? Why us?
Jul 28, 2003
16,979
Many of those in the relevant industries are very much concerned about exactly that happening. And those are the people who fully understand the process. I'm inclined to believe them.

And for balance, many don’t believe the hyperbole. Also, nobody understands the process. There isn’t one yet and attempts to agree it have changed by the hour this week alone.
 






Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,110
Surrey
The odds on a second EU referendum before 2020 is slowly coming in. It was 4.5 on the machine about 2 weeks ago, currently at 3.15/3.35 and if May's deal doesn't go through I reckon it'll come in further.
 




clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,175
And this is why some violence is inevitable. Because too many Remainers continue to argue their point in such condescendingly pious ways, on such a highly emotive and divisive matter as Brexit. The country is a powder keg with bright sparks like you running around with matches. On today, of all days, it’s unbelievable how foolish many people can be, as if it was ever so simple? And you have the nerve to call me stupid with your demonstrable Master’s in Idiocy laid bare for everyone to see! Suggest you take some quick classes in diplomacy or better still keep your mouth shut in public. Couple hundred years ago I’m fairly certain someone would have run a sword through you, the country would have descend into civil war. Fortunately we’ve moved on but I wonder how many people will be killed in the next few months in Brexit related violence.

It's a Powder Keg because leave got hijacked by the far right. This gives them something to march about where they don't have to mention Islam.

The majority of leavers are quote obviously small c conservatives going about their lives not wishing ill on anyone. Just like remainers.
 


A1X

Well-known member
NSC Patreon
Sep 1, 2017
17,517
Deepest, darkest Sussex
And for balance, many don’t believe the hyperbole.

Oh sure. We have the people who understand and work in the industries saying "this will be a problem", but to counteract that there are loads of people outside those industries who say it won't.
 



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