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If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?

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Thunder Bolt

Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Aug 18, 2009
65,501
Beside the seaside, beside the sea
BigGully said:
Why bother claiming to seek 'justification' when you hoped for a second referendum less than 36 hours after the first one when there was zero justification other than wishing Remain had won and Leave had lost, you then sneer at Brexiteers that might 'shout about destroying democracy' some time later ........ what would you call it ?
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Corruption.
 






Herr Tubthumper

Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,577
The Fatherland
Thunder Bolt said:
They still have 26 other countries, plus their trade agreements around the world, ie Australia, Japan, Canada etc to trade with.
Our imports will be zero rated according to the government, so loads can come in, but we will become massively expensive to buy from so our exports will tank.
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Which is obvs very beneficial to the EU.
 




nicko31

nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
17,606
Gods country fortnightly
seagulls4ever said:
The new tariff regime would mark a shift in favour of products from non-EU countries.

It would mean 82% of imports from the EU would be tariff-free, down from 100% now.

92% percent of imports from the rest of the world would pay no border duty, up from 56%.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47551266

Ireland’s European affairs minister, Helen McEntee, said the prospect of tariffs on beef and dairy exports to the UK from the republic would be “absolutely disastrous for Irish agriculture”.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...imports-cut-to-zero-in-temporary-no-deal-plan
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Up goes the border in the Irish sea, bye bye UK...
 




Herr Tubthumper

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BigGully

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Sep 8, 2006
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Thunder Bolt said:
Corruption.
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Good one, is that how you circumvent the democracy bit, except neither you or [MENTION=1320]Notters[/MENTION] seemingly weren't aware of any alleged corruption shortly after the referendum whilst still calling for another one .........
 








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seagulls4ever

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Oct 2, 2003
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Triggaaar said:
Seriously? We import hundred of billions worth from the EU. That would be affected, therefore affecting their economies.
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Pretty much everyone accepts that the EU would lose out from a no deal - the EU have themselves have even accepted this. They just say the UK would suffer worse. So to suggest No Deal would not lead to any suffering on the EU's part is ridiculous.

The lack of objectivity on these threads is sometimes too much.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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“If the UK still wants to leave the EU in an orderly manner, this treaty is, and will remain, the only treaty possible," Barnier said.

The U.K. still has the “we buy fleets of German cars and oceans of Prosecco” card to play right? You must have, as “we can have our cake and eat it and they need us” etc etc.
 




Herr Tubthumper

Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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seagulls4ever said:
Pretty much everyone accepts that the EU would lose out from a no deal - the EU have themselves even accepted this. They just say the UK would suffer worse. So to suggest No Deal would not lead to any suffering on the EU's part is ridiculous.

The lack of objectivity on these threads is sometimes too much.
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I will keep you informed of my suffering :wink:
 










beorhthelm

beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
35,312
nicko31 said:
Up goes the border in the Irish sea, bye bye UK...
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not according to the announcments/articles linked. we'll have to see what the Irish/EU would do about that border, especially how transit goods would be controled.

would be ironic if, having not bent on a back stop issue, No Deal came about and the Irish didn't apply any controls set out in the back stop.
 




Thunder Bolt

Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Aug 18, 2009
65,501
Beside the seaside, beside the sea
BigGully said:
Good one, is that how you circumvent the democracy bit, except neither you or [MENTION=1320]Notters[/MENTION] seemingly weren't aware of any alleged corruption shortly after the referendum whilst still calling for another one .........
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How do you know when I called for another referendum? How do you know when I became aware of the Electoral Law being broken.
 




Thunder Bolt

Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Aug 18, 2009
65,501
Beside the seaside, beside the sea
More duplicity from May and the Tories. Free vote on one amendment which isn't so important but a three line whip on the binding amendment.

So they're allowing a free vote on Malthouse, but not a free vote on Dromey/Spelman?
 


Bwian

Bwian

Kiss my (_!_)
Jul 14, 2003
15,898
Thunder Bolt said:
Whilst sneaking in abolishing the 4 hour waiting rule at NHS A&Es yesterday, hoping nobody would notice.
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It's not just the 4 hours waiting times at A&E that is bad news. Hospitals are so underfunded. I needed a letter from a stroke specialist to my ADHD Clinic to enable meds to be prescribed. The secretary is so snowed under it has been 10 days and finally she called to say it had been sent.

#NHS in safe hands.

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