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Well apparently, if we had a leaver in charge (someone like Boris ?), then the EU would have definitely let us pick a lot more of their cherries - I read somewhere
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Well apparently, if we had a leaver in charge (someone like Boris ?), then the EU would have definitely let us pick a lot more of their cherries - I read somewhere
"Not the end of the world". Well that's good, Brexit will officially be slightly better than a massive fireball of death. Now let's all hit the hay.
Ernest
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Garry Nelson's teacher
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Extract from article in today's Guardian. I know it's all be said before but there is a kind of remorseless irrationality in the arguments of those who assume that somehow we are being ripped off and inhibited by remaining in the customs union and single market and this little extract captures the situation rather well:
'Liam Fox can usually be relied upon to chime in with the assertion that 90% of global growth in the coming decade will be outside the EU. This is a popular Brexiteer statistic because it implies that the UK has made the far-sighted choice, switching out of the 10% European slow lane. That would be true if EU membership prohibited access to all other markets – if you could ship goods either within the EU or outside it, but never both. Plainly that is nonsense. Germany’s biggest trading partner is China. Berlin does not see its regulatory obligations to the single market as a brake on global exports.
Of all the nonsensical Brexit ideas to have acquired respectability through sheer force of repetition by Tory MPs, perhaps the flimsiest is this false dichotomy of “global” trade and EU membership. The common external tariff prevents EU members from signing bilateral agreements, but the compensation is being party to deals that Europeans negotiate as a bloc and, thanks to the sheer scale of the single market, on terms befitting an economic superpower. About 49% of Britain’s trade is currently with the EU. Another 12% is with 65 non-EU states that have free-trade agreements with Brussels. The most recent, with Japan, was signed in July this year.
There is no system for replicating those agreements after Brexit. Fox has racked up thousands of air miles crossing the Atlantic and the Pacific, eliciting bland statements of goodwill from overseas counterparts. But the number of deals he has successfully negotiated is a fat zero.'
'Liam Fox can usually be relied upon to chime in with the assertion that 90% of global growth in the coming decade will be outside the EU. This is a popular Brexiteer statistic because it implies that the UK has made the far-sighted choice, switching out of the 10% European slow lane. That would be true if EU membership prohibited access to all other markets – if you could ship goods either within the EU or outside it, but never both. Plainly that is nonsense. Germany’s biggest trading partner is China. Berlin does not see its regulatory obligations to the single market as a brake on global exports.
Of all the nonsensical Brexit ideas to have acquired respectability through sheer force of repetition by Tory MPs, perhaps the flimsiest is this false dichotomy of “global” trade and EU membership. The common external tariff prevents EU members from signing bilateral agreements, but the compensation is being party to deals that Europeans negotiate as a bloc and, thanks to the sheer scale of the single market, on terms befitting an economic superpower. About 49% of Britain’s trade is currently with the EU. Another 12% is with 65 non-EU states that have free-trade agreements with Brussels. The most recent, with Japan, was signed in July this year.
There is no system for replicating those agreements after Brexit. Fox has racked up thousands of air miles crossing the Atlantic and the Pacific, eliciting bland statements of goodwill from overseas counterparts. But the number of deals he has successfully negotiated is a fat zero.'
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Pretty pink fairy
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IT WOULDN'T, DESPITE PERSISTANT Grizzling from the last chance saloon gang on here who can't accept a democratic vote to LEAVE the EU
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DR
Two Professors
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Why bring back news from 2017?Nothing new to whine about?
Two Professors
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Indeed. Theresa May scrabbling around in Afica to makes friends with a view to a deal or two...as are Germany and France, both EU member states.
- Apr 5, 2014
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49%
It's 46% (ONS)
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Garry Nelson's teacher
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ONS Bulletin May 2018
When looking at UK goods imports, 55% came from EU countries, while 51% of UK goods exports were to countries outside of the EU in the 12 months to May 2018. The EU and non-EU split for imports of goods remained the same as the previous 12 months to May 2017, although the amount the UK exports to countries outside of the EU fell slightly, from 52% in the 12 months to May 2017 to 51% in the 12 months to May 2018.
When looking at UK goods imports, 55% came from EU countries, while 51% of UK goods exports were to countries outside of the EU in the 12 months to May 2018. The EU and non-EU split for imports of goods remained the same as the previous 12 months to May 2017, although the amount the UK exports to countries outside of the EU fell slightly, from 52% in the 12 months to May 2017 to 51% in the 12 months to May 2018.
- Apr 5, 2014
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Not by a great deal. But yes, as we have bilateral bespoke deals with all of those countries we can...
Oh......
highflyer
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France's voting system meant it became a flat-out race between Macron and a flat out racist
Most of those I know on the left in france held their noses and voted for Macron to keep Le Pen out. I'd have done the same. It doesn't mean they like Macron or support his centre right policies. In fact they largely despise him, seeing him as a Tony Blair figure - all charisma, no substance and mesmerized by glamour and wealth.
And his popularity is plummeting very very fast as far as i can tell.
sir albion
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Yes and that's 55% of exports from EU countries too us that never gets mentioned in this country.People need to remember it's a two way street but the media and remainers never mention the impact it will have on the EU.
