- Jul 10, 2003
- 25,954
I mistook Goldene for Goldstone, I apologise
We don't agree on the much, except for the fact that Brexit isn't a right/left thing
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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I mistook Goldene for Goldstone, I apologise
We don't agree on the much, except for the fact that Brexit isn't a right/left thing
Baldseagull
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Check out the cost of that victory.
Left wing leave voter here
Well you're in good company, so are Denis Skinner, George Galloway and almost certainly Jezza, at least that's what Dennis Skinner says.
Baldseagull
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No they haven't, the vast majority have been non EU.
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
Quite honestly, I couldn't give a toss about 'reasoned debate'. As a remoaner I find most arguments of the leavers to be too ludicrous for words, so, my defence against the insanity of leaving, as encouraged by Gove ,Rees Mogg, Johnson, Fox, the Mail, Express, Sun, Telegraph, et al is sarcasm and ridicule. For 40 odd years, weve had leavers of different ilks pushing falsehoods of various magnitude about the EU, well, i reckon we have about 38 years of living up to our remoaner nickname.
Baldseagull
Well-known member
This could turn into that scene from Monty Python "what have the Romans ever done for us"
This is complete bollocks unfortunately. In many of the areas the vote was (just like nationally) very close. To say that those areas "voted leave" is rubbish. Here in Sheffield the vote was split pretty much the same as the total vote. So around 170,000 people didn't get what they wanted but around 170,000 did.
Really winds me up when crap like this is regurgitated to make it look as if everyone outside London and Brighton voted Leave.
Yet they the MPs overwhelmingly voted to do just that. Give the decision making over to us plebs. We decided, didn't we and so we leave.
- Aug 8, 2005
- 26,606
I only quoted it because some of the remainers on here keep comparing it to a general election for some reason.
The only result that matters is that we voted to leave.
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
Oh, you're quite right, a decision to pacify the Leaver rump of the Tory party, and stop them desserting to Ukip. I also know MOs voted for the referendum 6-1, but, i still can't understand why.
GT49er
Well-known member
I don't know which is the funnier possibility really, him thinking that Golddene is a leaver, or the prize plum thinking I voted remain!
Baldseagull
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Did you mean know-nothing? I reckon those Professors are both called Bob.
seagulls4ever
New member
- Oct 2, 2003
- 4,338
So it's rubbish to say that areas that by a majority voted to leave "voted leave"? Brilliant.
Anyway, Giraffe is mostly correct. London, Scotland and NI are the outliers.
If you look at the constituency breakdown, there's not much remain outside these areas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resul...ean_Union_membership_referendum,_2016#England
Please read what I actually wrote.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
- 30,647
Giving Scotland its own Parliament and Northern Ireland and Wales their Assemblies has created a dynamic that didn't exist before. The Scottish Independence matter might have dissipated were it not for the Brexit vote, and Northern Ireland must themselves be thinking twice after voting to Remain and seeing their Assembly disbanded for more than a year and a half with the DUP in coalition with the Tories.
There doesn't seem to be much that genuinely unites this kingdom other than the Royal Family. I see Geraint Thomas won the Tour de France yesterday, but no sign of a Union Flag - just the Welsh Dragon on display. I think sporting success in the football, the rugby has boosted Welsh confidence and they deserve it.
Brexit was meant to be about Britain taking back control but because the negotiations have been such a shambles and the country split over the vote I think Britain itself is all the weaker for it.
seagulls4ever
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- Oct 2, 2003
- 4,338
I did read it. You accused someone else of talking bollocks (when his post was largely correct), and then proceeded to talk bollocks yourself.
Did most constituencies outside NI, Scotland and London vote leave? Yes. That it was close in some of those constituencies doesn't alter that. Plus, as you can see from the image I posted, for a lot of areas it was pretty comfortable. Of course not everyone outside of London and areas like Brighton voted leave in England (and he didn't say everyone), but that's largely the case.
Daddies_Sauce
Falmer WSL, not a JCL
- Jun 27, 2008
- 854
Nobody really knew and understood all that they were voting for, many areas coming out now were not even mentioned at the time, 'losing' a democratic vote would have been fair enough, but being lied too (politicians lie?) is far more difficult to accept. Bonkers Boris, Gormless Grove and F'wit Farrage should hang their heads in shame (but they will not).
In the unlikely event that there was a second vote, then my ballot paper would be marked the sames as the first time around, Remain.
In the unlikely event that there was a second vote, then my ballot paper would be marked the sames as the first time around, Remain.
Leavers refuse to participate in a "double or quits" vote. (Nothing to gain, everything to loose.) - so don't vote. - Many remainers don't vote also because it's pointless voting for what will be judged an illegal election.(Catalonia). Result:- 12 million remainers - 2 million leavers is meaningless (too low, distorted turnout). Back to square one!