View Poll Results: Is Theresa May is out of her depth?

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  • She doesn't know what she is doing

    429 70.79%
  • She knows exactly what she is doing

    177 29.21%
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    That's my thinking as well, for a time limited period to begin with. We have to hit no deal territory first though.
    My guess at the moment, will be an extension of current terms (ie full membership, full payment, no influence) pushing the NI/Ireland decision back into that extension, or TM will do what she did in December last year for the phase 1 negotiations and agree full CU membership at the 11th hour. That would, of course, open up the 2 year extension to membership (the one that used to be called 'implemenation' but is now called 'transition'). And she has already asked for a further year's extension on that.

    Beyond that, who knows

    More fudging and perfect conditions for business and economic growth.

    But the only thing that is certain is that we are not leaving on 29th March 2019 with a WTO 'no deal', and anyone who still thinks we are must be a little 'challenged'
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      My guess at the moment, will be an extension of current terms (ie full membership, full payment, no influence) pushing the NI/Ireland decision back into that extension, or TM will do what she did in December last year for the phase 1 negotiations and agree full CU membership at the 11th hour. That would, of course, open up the 2 year extension to membership (the one that used to be called 'implemenation' but is now called 'transition'). And she has already asked for a further year's extension on that.

      Beyond that, who knows

      More fudging and perfect conditions for business and economic growth.

      But the only thing that is certain is that we are not leaving on 29th March 2019 with a WTO 'no deal', and anyone who still thinks we are must be a little 'challenged'
      That's perfectly possible. EFTA is cheaper though than an ongoing implementation period in budgetary contributions, and as you know full well 3 years isn't going to be nearly enough time for what will need to put in place and built, both infrastructure and administration wise, for an FTA let alone the no deal fable. There's also the problem of the Scottish Tories promises on the CFP with a status quo transition and EFTA FOM is a better spin line to make on immigration than FOM just carrying on exactly as now in a transition. It also keeps the UK together (for now) and all constituent parts equal.
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      ND is still the Brexiteers wet dream

      Starting to think we will probably end up with a Norway style EFTA / EEA deal, probably the only thing that could get through parliament.
      It would probably get through parliament although May would have to rely on enough Labour MPs coming aboard to compensate for the ERG ones she'd lose. If the deal is benign enough for Corbyn not to apply the whips in voting against it she will be home and dry. The dynamics of the house will be transformed though.

      It is worth bearing in mind that a Norway-style deal is hardly anyone's favourite. I recall a recent poll mentioning 11 per cent. We will have gone through this nasty, divisive and expensive process in order to get to a situation that no one really wants. What a victory.
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      That's perfectly possible. EFTA is cheaper though than an ongoing implementation period in budgetary contributions, and as you know full well 3 years isn't going to be nearly enough time for what will need to put in place and built, both infrastructure and administration wise, for an FTA let alone the no deal fable. There's also the problem of the Scottish Tories promises on the CFP with a status quo transition and EFTA FOM is a better spin line to make on immigration than FOM just carrying on exactly as now in a transition. It also keeps the UK together (for now) and all constituent parts equal.
      Whether it's EFTA or extensions, the problem is that we are in limbo with none of the politicians (of any side) wanting to make a decision and alienate a significant proportion of the electorate. This is the original death by a thousand cuts to both businesses and the economy, with no possibility of forward planning or sufficient confidence for investment.

      If no politician is willing to make a decision, the only way out of this that I can see is a further vote (either referendum or GE) further down the line when the economic impact of this farcical situation that we are currently in becomes clear.
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      I'm not too sure I'd plunge the entire country into the abyss for £150k, but it's nice to know not everybody loses.

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      There are a lot of oldies with defined benefit pensions that don't give a sh1t, they know best and feel little gratitude for the last 40 years where the country generally has generally gone from strength to strength

      These people but not stupid but are just pretty selfish and contribute very little to the world around them
      You really amaze me,managing to combine being a bore and a boor is pretty unique.Who do you think created the wealth of the last 40 years,and contribute massively by charity volunteering.You obviously have no idea of charity,so look it up.It comes between cant and c<nt.
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      To be fair, you are not unusual amongst a certain group of the populace who, having slowly (in some cases, VERY slowly) dawned on them how badly thought out their preferred option was, have now decided to run away 'or become bored' with the total F*** up they have created and hope that someone else will sort it out.

      Don't worry, as per normal, the grown-ups will deal with it
      I’m actually a remainer and voted as such... if you go back far enough in this two grouped circle jerk you’ll find me saying exactly that. Thanks for the condescending bollocks though.
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      Perhaps if you added the other 72 MEPs payments in,it might go some way to explaining costs we will not have to pay anymore.
      It's those ridiculous simplistic arguments that annoy me.

      There are good arguments on either side of the debate, but to suggest we are quids in because of MEP salaries is utter nonsense.

      Far outweighed (for years) by the money spent by UK business to put contingency plans in place. Consultants and Solicitors have been raking it in.

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      It's those ridiculous simplistic arguments that annoy me.

      There are good arguments on either side of the debate, but to suggest we are quids in because of MEP salaries is utter nonsense.

      Far outweighed (for years) by the money spent by UK business to put contingency plans in place. Consultants and Solicitors have been raking it in.

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      Not to mention the 2.5% of lost GDP since the UK embarked on its Brexit paralysis. MEP's salaries really are a drop in the ocean...
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