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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
You really need to stop taking Twitter as gospel truth. I'll stick to the figures on the Parliament wensite thank you that are audited ..... rather than some random post on Twitter.

As I said your figures go back to April. I have never used Twitter as gospel truth but those tweets are from Labour party members. Suit yourself whether you read them or not.
 


WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
25,801
When I said current WTO tariffs I meant the current EU ones. There is a transition period of two years. Now whether that happens on a no deal, I don't think it set. At the moment I woulde imagine you would say no. But push comes to shove, well, as you agree imports/exports are not going to stop.

I can see as an emergency message that we could use our current (EU) tariffs for as period in the event of a no deal.

I honestly see us leaving the EU on 29th March regardless, and regardless of a deal or no deal, I don't think much will change for a few years.

It has been set and we only get the transition period (21 months) with an EU deal. (That's not just me saying no, that's the EU and our government). With 'no deal', we are out on 29th March 2019, no transition, extension, implementation or whatever else the government or anyone else wants to call it.

I think you are now starting to understand why I am so confident there will not be a 'no deal' on 29th March 2019. We could use our EU tariffs for a period as long as we extend our membership of the EU accordingly. Other members of the WTO negotiated those tariffs in order to trade with one of the biggest trading blocs in the world, and certainly wouldn't entertain them for Britain standing alone.

And, for all the reasons I have outlined, if we were to leave with 'no deal' on 29th March 2019 there would be massive change within hours.
 
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mikeyjh

Well-known member
Dec 17, 2008
4,486
Llanymawddwy
As I said your figures go back to April. I have never used Twitter as gospel truth but those tweets are from Labour party members. Suit yourself whether you read them or not.

From your link, I found (I think) 5 tweets suggesting labour members 'leaving in droves' during November. 5. The third of which was tweeted by someone who tags himself with 'DFLA' & 'IAMTOMMY', I suspect he, for one, is not a Labour party member. Think you're best backing down on this one.
 






The Merry Prankster

Pactum serva
Aug 19, 2006
5,577
Shoreham Beach
Fair comment. I have seen lots of comments by Labour party members who are worried about Corbyn and McDonnell because those two are very much for Brexit.

I see this fiction repeated time after time. Corbyn campaigned for Remain and voted for Remain. McDonnell did the same. In fact JM reitterarated only two days ago on LBC that if there was a second referendum he would vote remain again. I realise that this fantasy about them serves some purpose but it is neither in line with their words or their actions. And I speak as a disappointed Socialist who would have liked a left wing exit.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
From your link, I found (I think) 5 tweets suggesting labour members 'leaving in droves' during November. 5. The third of which was tweeted by someone who tags himself with 'DFLA' & 'IAMTOMMY', I suspect he, for one, is not a Labour party member. Think you're best backing down on this one.

I just did a search for labour leaving droves. As I said Twitter is not gospel truth but it is a collection of opinions just like Nsc.
 






Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
I see this fiction repeated time after time. Corbyn campaigned for Remain and voted for Remain. McDonnell did the same. In fact JM reitterarated only two days ago on LBC that if there was a second referendum he would vote remain again. I realise that this fantasy about them serves some purpose but it is neither in line with their words or their actions. And I speak as a disappointed Socialist who would have liked a left wing exit.

You can believe it as fiction if you want but Corbyn is most definitely for Brexit.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/14/jeremy-corbyn-wants-hard-brexit-labour
https://www.markpack.org.uk/153744/jeremy-corbyn-brexit/

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pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
30,271
West, West, West Sussex
Boris seems conspicuous by his absence with all the shenanigans going on today. Where is he?
 












Jan 30, 2008
31,981
it has been set and we only get the transition period (21 months) with an eu deal. (that's not just me saying no, that's the eu and our government). With 'no deal', we are out on 29th march 2019, no transition, extension, implementation or whatever else the government or anyone else wants to call it.

I think you are now starting to understand why i am so confident there will not be a 'no deal' on 29th march 2019. We could use our eu tariffs for a period as long as we extend our membership of the eu accordingly. Other members of the wto negotiated those tariffs in order to trade with one of the biggest trading blocs in the world, and certainly wouldn't entertain them for britain standing alone.

And, for all the reasons i have outlined, if we were to leave with 'no deal' on 29th march 2019 there would be massive change within hours.
yes, of course there will because you said so :timmy:
regards
DR
 




JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Boris seems conspicuous by his absence with all the shenanigans going on today. Where is he?

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