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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?

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Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
31,336
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JC Footy Genius said:
They could but considering the Leave campaign and the remain campaign said repeatedly a leave vote meant leaving single/internal market combined with the central leave campaign theme of 'taking back control' they would be wrong. It's like Remain winnning but people arguing a rabidly anti EU UKIP agenda was what the remainers voted for ...
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Total rubbish. Daniel Hannan who has been one of the prominent Leave campaigners for years (longer than Farage) was in favour of remaining in EFTA (ie a customs union). Michael Gove, another leading campaigner for Brexit, also argued for staying in EFTA and as for Farage himself ... "Wouldn't it be terrible if we were really like Norway and Switzerland? Really? They're rich. They're happy. They're self-governing"

There are loads of examples of Brexiters saying something similar, stop trying to rewrite history
 




JC Footy Genius

JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Blue3 said:
no different where laws are made you and I will have little or no influence the truth is the more levels of jurisdiction the more chance of reaching fair decisions
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FFs ... no difference? You and I have little democratic input/influence at a council election ... less at a General Election ... less at a European election ... no difference at EU/ECJ level.
 


JC Footy Genius

JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Gwylan said:
Total rubbish. Daniel Hannan who has been one of the prominent Leave campaigners for years (longer than Farage) was in favour of remaining in EFTA (ie a customs union). Michael Gove, another leading campaigner for Brexit, also argued for staying in EFTA and as for Farage himself ... "Wouldn't it be terrible if we were really like Norway and Switzerland? Really? They're rich. They're happy. They're self-governing"

There are loads of examples of Brexiters saying something similar, stop trying to rewrite history
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You believe the hard Marxists that have taken control of the Labour party are the same as social democrats in Europe now this ...





 


ManOfSussex

ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,745
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
Thunder Bolt said:
Am I a drama queen or have I been proved to be right? This is someone who has held public office, not just a wife and Mum.

http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/i...ial_Icon&utm_campaign=in_article_social_icons
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There's been many others like her who've applied since Brexit (Their status situation is confusing, it's a 90 page form to fill in, all the documentation to provide, as well as the relevant fees) and been rejected. The backlog of applications was above 100,000 at one point. A fear a lot have is that those who've applied and been rejected will also be rejected for Settled Status as a result, if and when it's ever finally launched.
 








nicko31

nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
17,573
Gods country fortnightly
Thunder Bolt said:
Am I a drama queen or have I been proved to be right? This is someone who has held public office, not just a wife and Mum.

http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/i...ial_Icon&utm_campaign=in_article_social_icons

Former Ipswich mayor Inga Lockington has had her application for British citizenship turned down by the Home Office – because officials will not accept that she is a UK resident!

The news has caused disbelief in the town – and local MP Sandy Martin is hoping to raise it as an emergency matter at Prime Minister’s Question Time today.

Mrs Lockington, who has been a Liberal Democrat councillor for 19 years and was mayor of her adopted town ten years ago, is Danish. She married Dr Tim Lockington in 1979 and has lived in this country ever since.

She had not applied for UK citizenship until now because as an EU citizen she had the right to live here – and until two years ago Denmark had laws which said she would lose the citizenship of her homeland if she became a naturalised Briton.

The Brexit vote, and a change to Danish law, persuaded her to apply for UK citizenship and she spent £1,282 making the application. After rejecting her application, the Home Office refunded £80 because she will not be required to attend a citizenship ceremony.

The Home Office letter says: “As you have not provided a document certifying permanent residence or a permanent residence card issued by the Home Office, we cannot be satisfied that you were permanently resident in the United Kingdom no the date of your application for naturalisation and it has been refused.”

Mrs Lockington said there was no need for EU citizens to have a permanent residence card.

Inga Lockington has lived in Britain since her marriage to Tim in December 1979 – this are her key dates.

December 1979: Marries Dr Tim Lockington and returns with him to live in London. Danish passport stamped at Harwich saying: “Given leave to enter the United Kingdom for an indefinite period.”

Mid-1990s: Moves with family to Ipswich, law allows EU citizens to go on to electoral rolls and vote in Local elections. Mrs Lockington goes on electoral roll.

1999: Elected LibDem councillor on Ipswich Council for St Margarets. She has held the seat ever since.

2001: Elected to Suffolk County Council. She has held the seat ever since.

2007: Elected Mayor of Ipswich for the year – after serving on the borough’s executive committee.

2016: Brexit vote.

2017: Mrs Lockington decides to apply for UK citizenship.

2018: Citizenship application rejected.
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A national embarrassment, but nothing surprises me anymore the way we are heading
 
















WATFORD zero

WATFORD zero

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NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
25,807
JC Footy Genius said:
They could but considering the Leave campaign and the remain campaign said repeatedly a leave vote meant leaving single/internal market combined with the central leave campaign theme of 'taking back control' they would be wrong. It's like Remain winnning but people arguing a rabidly anti EU UKIP agenda was what the remainers voted for ...
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Cheer up, another 6 months and you may find out what it was you voted for 2 years ago :thumbsup:
 












JC Footy Genius

JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
astralavi said:
Notice the difference

Australia is hopeful to do a trade deal with the UK in 2021 (said just before meeting the EU)
Australia Is doing a trade deal with the EU in 2019

What deal will there be to be had by 2021?
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Notice the difference. EU trade deals need agreement from 29 nations and drag on for years 6/7/8/9 + years .. bilateral trade deals are concluded much quicker and prioritise only two nations interests.
 






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astralavi

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Apr 6, 2017
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JC Footy Genius said:
Notice the difference. EU trade deals need agreement from 29 nations and drag on for years 6/7/8/9 + years .. bilateral trade deals are concluded much quicker and prioritise only two nations interests.
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Obviously the EU are highly motivated to get a deal done quickly. 1. Before Brexit 2. As a counter measure to the US trade war.
 
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