View Poll Results: Is Theresa May is out of her depth?

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  • She doesn't know what she is doing

    418 70.85%
  • She knows exactly what she is doing

    172 29.15%
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    How ironic that the Lords Amendment on a meaningful vote went 52%-48% in favour of the Brexiteers.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Herr Tubthumper View Post
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      I’m not sure who it’s going well for in Britain. Personally I felt that a deal to force the government to rethink/row back offered security. But you’re now playing into our hands. We have to play very very hard in these negotiations and you now have one less “get-out” than you did earlier. We all know the no-deal-is-better-than-a-bad-deal is bollocks. And you can’t now leverage “UK parliament won’t accept it” either.
      We all know why 'you' have to 'play hard'. It is a crying shame that the attitude you display typifies the attitude of the EU to any dissenting country. So much for the idea of democracy and self determination. It is a pity the EU feels so insecure.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Green Cross Code Man View Post
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      We all know why 'you' have to 'play hard'. It is a crying shame that the attitude you display typifies the attitude of the EU to any dissenting country. So much for the idea of democracy and self determination. It is a pity the EU feels so insecure.
      In my opinion it is because Britain can’t be trusted. If there is to be a deal we need certain assurances that you won’t renage or row back on certain things.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ManOfSussex View Post
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      Meanwhile Jacob Rees-Mogg has got his and the nations priorities spot on this evening.

      Well his constituents, of course, voted remain but who gives a **** about them, there’s money to be made!
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      The fact there is no electronic voting in Parliament is ridiculous and means less time for debate, even today when the government is rushing important decisions through Parliament to avoid defeat. That was her point and it stands.
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      Quote Originally Posted by WATFORD zero View Post
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      Isn't it about time @Titanic updated the thread title again. It's been nearly 2 years out of date for a long while and appears that it's now nearly 3 years out. (If, indeed, we do ever leave).

      I can understand that it could be a bit of a pain updating the title each and every time there is a further extension, but you did start it
      3 amendments today to try and scupper the Governments fixed exit date of 29 March 2019. And all 3 defeated.
      No need for @Titanic to change the thread title after all,you can stop panicking now.
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      Quote Originally Posted by The Clamp View Post
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      Tory government trying to sideline Parliament. Talk about ignoring democracy.
      Breaking News:Tory government tries to sideline Parliament and ignore democracy with democratic votes inside Parliament shocker .



      Motion to disagree with lords Amendment 110
      Lords amendment 110 would prevent the government from using statutory instruments to change EU law once it is UK law.

      Ayes 324 Noes 302
      Amendment defeated



      Motion to disagree with lords Amendment 128
      Lords amendment 128 relates to a sifting of secondary legislation

      Ayes 325 Noes 304
      Amendment defeated



      Motion to disagree with Lords Amendment 37
      Lords amendment 37 gives Parliament the power to approve the exit date for the UK leaving the EU.
      It removes the Governments fixed date of leaving the EU on 29 March 2019

      Ayes 326 Noes 301
      Amendment defeated



      Motion to disagree with Lords Amendment 39
      Lords amendment 39 would mean that references to "exit day" should instead refer to an as-yet unappointed day that a minister can decide.
      The Governments fixed date is 29 March 2019

      Ayes 324 Noes 302
      Amendment defeated



      Motion to disagree with Lords Amendment 125
      Lords Amendment 125 would require both Houses to approve the “exit day” set using ministers powers for the UK to leave the EU
      The Governments fixed date is 29 March 2019

      Ayes 328 Noes 297
      Amendment defeated



      Motion to disagree with Lords Amendment 19
      Lords amendment 19 on a `meaningful vote` gives Mp`s the power to stop the UK from leaving the EU without a deal.
      The amendment requires parliamentary approval of the withdrawal agreement and transition agreement, and gives MPs the power to direct the government if the deal is rejected or no deal is reached

      Ayes 324 Noes 298
      Amendment defeated



      Motion to disagree with Lords Amendment 52
      Lords amendment 52 on retained EU laws removes ministers' ability to use secondary legislation to establish when individuals can challenge the validity of retained EU laws and guarantees the right of challenge to a domestic law if it fails to comply with the general principles of EU law as set out by the ECJ.

      Ayes 326 Noes 301
      Amendment defeated



      Motion to disagree with Lords Amendment 10
      Lords amendment 10 limits the scope of ministers in that ministers can only use delegated powers to amend retained EU law where “necessary” rather than where they deem it “relevant”

      Ayes 320 Noes 305
      Amendment defeated



      Motion to disagree with Lords Amendment 43.
      Lords amendment 43 would restrict ministerial powers to only making provisions, as a consequence of the bill, under secondary legislation, by stating these powers can only be used “when necessary” rather than “when appropriate”

      Ayes 322 Noes 306
      Amendment defeated



      Motion to disagree with Lords Amendment 45
      Lords amendment 45 would restrict ministers to only making transitional provisions that arise from the coming into force of any provision of the bill, under secondary legislation, by stating these powers can only be used “when necessary” rather than “when appropriate”

      Ayes 317 Noes 306
      Amendment defeated



      Motion to disagree with Lords Amendment 20
      Lords amendment 20 means secondary legislation can’t be used to implement a withdrawal agreement until Parliament has approved phase two negotiations about the UK's future relationship with the EU

      Ayes 321 Noes 305
      Amendment defeated
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      Well his constituents, of course, voted remain but who gives a **** about them, there’s money to be made!
      Over 53% of his constituents voted for the Eurosceptic Moggster in the 2017 GE. Increased share of the vote, fighting on a manifesto promising to respect and enact the will of the majority in the referendum!!
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