daveinplzen
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- Aug 31, 2018
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This is not the fault of the EU though is it?
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[Politics] Brexit
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This is not the fault of the EU though is it?
daveinplzen
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- Aug 31, 2018
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So what?
haha
Im also not suggesting ANYTHING. Just providing you with the information you have struggled to find.
You can blame the EU all you want. The simple fact is, the British government have the means, but havnt implemented them. These inept, incompetents, are the people you are relying on for Brexit. Good luck.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
More specifically a Government department known as 'The Home Office' enforced by an agency of it known as 'The Border Force', who with their compliment reduced by nearly 25% since 2010, preside over anywhere between 300,000 and 1 million people in The UK illegally at present, as nobody's quite sure.
(Just think - If only 10% of EU nationals fail to apply for Settled Status, that figure will grown by another 300,000.)
pastafarian
Well-known member
Struggled to find? Dont be so clueless dave, ive quoted these directives a number of times.
Yes there should be residency checks but the residency issue months after citizens have freely waltzed across our border anyway to come here to work and live dont not address taking back control of our borders and adequate border controls. Only the extreme free for all types claim checks months after entry is adequate and sufficient
What we are struggling to find here is the EU mechanism that allows us to control our borders with permits to enter prior to entry for living and working, allows quotas on numbers entering specific to a tier entry band, such as we currently do with non EU citizens that want to come here to work and live, a mechanism that would allow us to take back control and managed immigration equally across EU and non EU.
Apparently we have always had these controls at our disposal that we could use whilst being members that wouldnt affect membership but dont use them.......oddly enough no one seems to be able to track down this mythical mechanism.
pastafarian
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Illegal immigration is a separate issue and shouldnt be confused with legitimate immigration.
Hardly anyone likes illegal immigration taking the piss, working in the black economy and not contributing to UK plc.
Its why the public still supports the hostile environment on illegal immigrants even after windrush.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2018/04/27/where-public-stands-immigration
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
I'm not confusing it with legitimate immigration, nor am I condoning it or saying anyone supports it - I'm just pointing out illegal immigration is only going to get worse after Brexit as our already stretched enforcement resources become more stretched on this tinpot little island of ours that can't control it's borders.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
That is you creating a jpeg that you then post on here losing all source and supporting information
So it's definitely not this reason you gave for not posting links, diametrically opposed to your current reasoning
Or this reason for you not posting links
I have to say, you seem a little confused as to your reasons for not posting links like any normal person would
For a start it's not a jpeg you lazy object.You seem to be the one who is confused.If you have the time to search through my posts and put them on here(you are a bit creepy),then you have the time to Ask Alexa,or ask Google,or your tea-boy.Where is the proof of your definition of normality?Could you post a link,as I'm sure you wouldn't fit it.The Watford Stalker-sounds like a good name for a BBC thriller.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
You are really sick in the head.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
What a load of guff.As people grow older (most normal people,anyway) they get wisdom,and learn the error of their ways.Old age and death come to everyone,not just Brexiteers.
Spliting hairs to say the least - not a lot of difference bewteen a jpeg and a png but then we all know how good you are with all things technology. Strange name you've given it as well !
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Don't look like 3 million to me.More like the same loonies there every day.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Well if Watford creepy wants to pull me up,I'm more than capable of giving it back.Technology is only as good as the person with the on/off button allows it to be.Using it is enough for me-I don't need to know what 5G is to use it.
nicko31
Well-known member
They are the forgotten 3 million and hung out to dry, treated disgracefully by this government. The 1 million plus Brits in Europe haven't fared any better either, most have been left in the dark
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pastafarian
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Its good to see you recognise the fact that this wonderful island will continue to attract people here ( even the unwanted illegals) after brexit.
Makes you wonder why people continue to want to come here if one believes the rabid doomers who say we are nation awash with xenophobes and racists in the dying throws of economic meltdown and soon to be an economic basket case. Its almost as if they are full of crap.
I wonder after brexit how many eu citizens will chose to live and work here illegally and will consider that a preferable option to working and living legally in whats left of the EU. That certainly wouldnt be a glowing reference for the EU CV
- Jul 10, 2003
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I am certainly impressed by your ability to 'give it back'. As I am equally with your grasp of Technology and Pushtu
And your grasp of the Single Market
And your grasp of free trade deal timelines
God,you Losers are so stupid it really is remarkable you remember to breathe.Try reading things first before crowing about an EU/Japan free trade deal-it doesn't exist!An agreement in principle has been reached,that is all.It could take up to 15 years to implement,and I doubt the EU will still exist by then.
How 15 years becomes 2 years Maybe we could learn something here for our Brexit negotiations ?
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- Jul 10, 2003
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After further pages and pages of whataboutism, we haven't had one of these for a while and it is obvious from the constant references from a few posters on here, how popular these are
From this time last year - spooky huh ?
From this time last year - spooky huh ?
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
The Brits in Europe have a court case coming up (I think it's the 27th Nov) about being denied a vote in the Referendum.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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we've established they haven't been forgotten. not sure what the EU has offered to UK citizens in Europe, are they not reciprocating the arrangement?
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
If you're from the developing world, as most illegal immigrants are, anywhere you can go to get out of it is better than there and the softer the touch of the western country, the better. So somewhere like here - a tinpot, moribund, English speaking, little island country, that has up to 1 million illegals already present - is a good place to chance your arm as any.
Illegal EU citizens here after Brexit will be the ones who don't apply for Settled Status - the elderly, the mentally ill, the ones with learning difficulties, the ones who aren't online and don't find it as easy as setting up an LK Bennett account, the ones who can't afford to shop at LK Bennett and therefore can't afford the fee, the ones who don't know about it, the ones who don't speak English, the ones in the black economy, the human trafficking victims...........I think 10% not applying for it is an optimistic figure and it'll be topped up with new arrivals from Romania and Bulgaria in due course too. Brexit is certainly going to be a good long-term business opportunity for those into smuggling and people trafficking.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Nobody said they've been forgotten but they are getting turned down whilst applying for residency. I've given three examples of that just this afternoon.