[Politics] Brexit

Gwylan said:

I'm not really up to date with all the rules of the EU, the latest decision on membership (which would have applied before the UK cities made their bids) was in 2014. But there were ECCs before this date, several of which have been outside the EU - Bergen and Reykjavik for example, and others from candidate countries, Prague and Krakow. I'd guess, therefore, that the rules allowing non-EU countries were laid down very early on.

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Hampster Gull said:

I will file this along with the other Brexit statements of certainty that the Netherlands would immediately follow us out in their general election, and then the French, and that Greece would cause the Euro to collapse and the famous £350m back per week for the NHS, amongst others

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Hampster Gull said:

I will file this along with the other Brexit statements of certainty that the Netherlands would immediately follow us out in their general election, and then the French, and that Greece would cause the Euro to collapse and the famous £350m back per week for the NHS, amongst others

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ManOfSussex said:

Christ................To be born in Hastings to an NHS family.............some of you people actually had the right to vote 'leave' or 'remain'................motherf*****r.

I wish I'd stayed in Africa, or never left Tunbridge-Wells.

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GT49er said:

File what you like, but remember that plenty of the idiots on your side refute the fact that the following are lies! And seem to think they're clever doing so.............unbelievable!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...ld-war-7928607

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.g...s-if-we-leave/

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...y-agreement-eu

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-a7039981.html

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/n...aluations.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/matt..._12191462.html

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beorhthelm said:

if your going to disrepects peoples right to have a different view, maybe you should have.

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Hampster Gull said:

Thx GT. Not sure I would say I am on a side but know what you mean. None of those links works bar the one that says house prices could fall by btw 10% to 18%. Given our currency and therefore the countries wealth has devalued by c15% since Brexit this call wasn’t far off the mark. It also said mortgages could increase, and of course that has already happened.

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The Clamp said:

HT was right on the money. It really is just a constant stream of utter bollocks from you. It does not surprise me a jot that you go online to watch videos of people trying to polish turds.
I however, won't be. Thank you.

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Garry Nelson's teacher said:

The one thing (actually it's more than one thing but this is one of the more puzzling things) is that Brexiteers don't uncouple the political from the economic. I think I can understand (just about) the arguments for sovereignty (political) to remove us form the EU. A lot of folk have maintained these views for many years and I can grudgingly accept and even respect this, though I don't share their view. I can also see the 'refund' arguments and the migration arguments. But why do Brexiteers then fall over themselves in trying to believe that we would somehow be better off outside the EU? Because the political imperatives do not really drive the economic ones; they are to a large extent independent of each other.

Thus it would be quite logical for a Brexiteer to 'admit' (or just to say) that "fair enough we will probably be poorer outside the EU, but I personally think it's a price worth paying". But instead we get all this baloney that no serious economist other than Patrick Minford - who many would not accept as a serious economist anyway - spout about the golden future that awaits us trade-wise.
Or at best we get the 'all the experts are wrong' argument or the (slightly more credible) "well no-one knows what will happen" defence (so let's suck it and see and what happens, as it's only our kids' futures at stake).

I guess I can anticipate the response (so please feel free to prove me wrong!) but I thought it was worth a try: I appreciate we all tend to paint ourselves into a corner on these things (some more than others), but are all Brexiteers genuinely optimistic about our economic prospects outside the EU? Aren't you just a little bit concerned?

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Two Professors said:

Well,as an non-EU country in 2019,I thought we would still qualify.Probably a waste of time,be just like Eurovision,GB nul points.

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Pretty pink fairy said:

Worked out what the meaning of the word leave is yet ?
regards
DR

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Two Professors said:

Think Poland and Hungary are much more likely to quit than Holland,particularly if their subsidies are cut after Brexit.

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nicko31 said:

I know a fair few older Brexiteers that happily admit he country will be poorer, and Farage did admit this before also

Many just want things back like 1960 again, they just don't care, nice pensions and the system insulates them from the pain to come

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ManOfSussex said:

Why can't other nice leave voters, such as yourself, have the same logic?

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Pretty pink fairy said:

You Grizzlers on here are all pissing in the wind and eaten up with Denial , give it up we're leaving FACT ,you'll feel so much better for it
regards
DR

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ManOfSussex said:

Christ................To be born in Hastings to an NHS family.............some of you people actually had the right to vote 'leave' or 'remain'................motherf*****r.

I wish I'd stayed in Africa, or never left Tunbridge-Wells.

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Two Professors said:

Can't decide if I should make you look a complete ****.No,I will be charitable and let you Google 'polish a turd'.Some good turd-polishing videos on there.Try checking before gobbing off,eh?

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Gwylan said:

I voted to leave in the full expectation that the country would be poorer, at least in the short term. As you say, Farage admitted this would be the case. I did think, however, that the UK negotiators would do a better job of things and be keener to get a deal sorted.

I thought that we'd accept some short term pain but the indications are that the pain is going to be a lot worse and a lot longer than it should be.

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